Cherokee Purple.....Others like it?

[wally mcgee]

I recently grew and ate my first Cherokee Purple tomato; I loved it; great flavor.

What are some other tomato varieties with that kind of rich; smokey taste.

I think I'm hooked on CP.

[jennifer28]

I really like black tomatoes. I would say... Indian Stripe. I have read it is related to Cherokee Purple but then I have read other people insisting it is not. I really don't know if it is related but it is super productive, I believe the one I have may be semi determinate as well since it is only like 4 and a half feet but producing like crazy... and the taste is wonderful.

Now these others are not really like cherokee purple but they are wonderful black tomatoes:

Spudatula black, which I got from Secret Seed Cartel (Terry AKA Tomatoaddict's store)

And I much prefer Noire De Crimee to Black Krim, I have read that Noire De Crimee is a kind of black krim.... I got those seeds from Heritage Tomato Seed (Steve AKA Heritage's store).

[AKmark]

I think Cherokee Purple has its own unique taste. Cherokee Chocolate does not taste like it in my garden, it has a nice tomato taste, where CP has a weird twang on the taste, very good though.
Other blks do not taste like it in my IMO, I have Krim, Robeson, Pear, Prince.

[wally mcgee]

What is your all time favorite?

[ginger2778]

Indian stripe PL X Possibly Daniels.

Marsha

[NarnianGarden]

So many tomatoes, so little time to grow them all

Cherokee Purple sounds like something I'll have to try out next year - or whenever. Purple Calabash is another one. They say it has an unique taste as well.

Noir de Crimee goes to my 'have to try'-list as well. Hope to find some seeds from a reliable source next spring - too many stories of 'surprises' even from professional growers / companies.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by ginger2778

Indian stripe PL X Possibly Daniels.

Marsha

Marsha, this is what I offered in my 2012 Seed Offer;

Indian Stripe X possibly Daniels (PL), a natural cross form Bill Jeffers growouts. My F3 seeds from Suze, who got some segregation with the F3’s, but selected this one, which is a very large deep pink, PL, and with great taste. No final variety name yet.

Not IS PL X possibly Daniels.

Carolyn

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by jennifer28

I really like black tomatoes. I would say... Indian Stripe. I have read it is related to Cherokee Purple but then I have read other people insisting it is not. I really don't know if it is related but it is super productive, I believe the one I have may be semi determinate as well since it is only like 4 and a half feet but producing like crazy... and the taste is wonderful.

Now these others are not really like cherokee purple but they are wonderful black tomatoes:

Spudatula black, which I got from Secret Seed Cartel (Terry AKA Tomatoaddict's store)

And I much prefer Noire De Crimee to Black Krim, I have read that Noire De Crimee is a kind of black krim.... I got those seeds from Heritage Tomato Seed (Steve AKA Heritage's store).

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w...b=General_Info

Jennifer, you say that "other people say that CP and IS are not related", but I know of only one person who had doubts and I think he finally came around and agreed.

There are many, many threads here about Indian Stripe/ Indian Zebra, for those who wish to do a search and consider the data presented.

Carolyn

[ginger2778]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

Marsha, this is what I offered in my 2012 Seed Offer;

Indian Stripe X possibly Daniels (PL), a natural cross form Bill Jeffers growouts. My F3 seeds from Suze, who got some segregation with the F3’s, but selected this one, which is a very large deep pink, PL, and with great taste. No final variety name yet.

Not IS PL X possibly Daniels.

Carolyn

Yeah, I see the difference.

Marsha

[feldon30]

Cherokee Purple is the reason I grow tomatoes.

[camochef]

I grew Cherokee Purple for quite a few years, as well as Cherokee Chocolate, Indian Stripe, Black Krim, Carbon, Paul Robeson Southern Night, and every other black tomato I could find . (more than you'd imagine about 6-7 years ago).
I had two problems with Cherokee Purple. First one being the fact that you could plant a row of twenty and only two or three would have great tasting tomatoes. The others would be bland or tasteless in comparison.
Second would be their short shelf life. Once picked, They go bad faster than any other tomato I'm aware of. Even Cherokee Chocolate which is supposed to be the same tomato with only a skin color mutation lasts much longer.
The only three "black" tomatoes I grow for the past few years are: Amazon Chocolate, Dana's Dusky Rose, and Bear Creek. They alternate year to year as to which is the best tasting. Bear Creek is usually the last to keep producing but Amazon Chocolate produces the largest tomatoes. Dana's Dusky Rose is a medium-sized dark tomato with great taste and decent production. If I had to pick another black it would be Black Master which also ranks among my favorites but was eliminated when I reduced the size of my gardens.
I hope you continue to enjoy Cherokee Purple and other dark tomatoes.
Enjoy!
Camo

[Crandrew]

No fans of Black from Tula in here huh?

[AKmark]

You did not mention that you were growing Paul Robeson this year like in the past, I think I will always grow it, unless... someone like you tells me of a better blk tomato. At any rate, it produces well for me, 10-16oz tomatoes, and taste great. What happened?

[Annie]

I grew Cherokee, Indian Stripe and Morton this year along with some others KGB. It was a terrible year for me. I planted end of Feb, had some freezes and had to cover everything. Had beautiful plants loaded with tomatoes but the first ones even though they looked great just didn't have the flavor they had last year. The Morton had the best flavor. The next ones seemed much better, then in June came the heat. 100 and up just didn't cut it. I still have a few tomatoes but with the lack of rain and stink bugs I have given up.
I had beautiful green beans, egg plants. The rabbits ate them to the bare stalks and then they started on them. Next year I will have to put up some kind of fence. I use a lot of rabbit poop on my vegetables and in my flower beds. Never had rabbits until I started using it. Now we have them hopping everywhere. Is it possible the poop could have attracted all these rabbits. I was so disgusted with my garden this year that I almost consider forgetting it for next year, then comes spring and I get all excited about planting again. I may make it smaller. My whole year has been like my tomatoes. Had buzzard nesting in my chimney, had to get a chimney sweep and then the expense of a big cover. Air conditioner blower went out,husband had to get a different pace maker because he couldn't breathe, now I am having trouble with my second air conditioner. This has not been a good year.

[afrance30]

Originally Posted by Crandrew

No fans of Black from Tula in here huh?

Not growing it this year but I like Black From Tula. I do prefer Cherokee Purple, however I prefer Cherokee Purple to just about any tomato.