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Old August 11, 2013   #1
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Default Test flavour of my new tomatoes

I have a problem. I want appreciate the flavour of my new tomatoes. I have about ten varieties and when I tasted fourth variety I already don´t know how first variety flavoured . Is some method how rationally to do it, to find the rank of vatieties to taste?
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Old August 11, 2013   #2
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I wonder if there is something you can eat or drink between the varieties - just a sip pf water or so. When sampling on the parfume aisle in a department store, they often have this bowl of coffee beans available to keep your olfactory senses clear.

Perhaps write down your impressions every time you take a bite - that way, you don't rely on your memory only.
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Only test 3 at a time LOL
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I find the 0 to 10 scale in common use to be fine, but nobody ever seems to rate them less than a 6 anyway! Or maybe they just don't talk about those.

Do you prefer your rating to be as compared to other tomatoes or on its own merits? I would think it'd be easier to say, judge a tomato as better or worse than the best Cherokee Purple you've ever had, than to give it a rating based just on itself. Less useful for other people, though.

What I would do, for my own use, is taste the tomato, and give it a rating on a scale of 1 to 10, compared to that ideal Cherokee Purple, factoring in any condition issues. Then I would write down everything that occurred to me about it on the spot - color, taste specifics, balance, productivity, if I thought it would make good sauce, and so on. Wait a moment. Repeat with the next tomato.

I'd love to see a point-based scale. 10 points for flavor, 10 points for color appeal, 10 points for productivity, 10 points for hardiness... or whatever. So you can glance at a tomato rating to get an idea of how ideal it is, then read the sub-scores to see how it ranks in areas that matter to you. But I don't think that's gonna happen!
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I never tried to give a 1-10 rating. Instead, I'd try 2 tomatoes alone and in tomato sandwiches, and write down my impressions of how they compared. It's not hard to do if you have only a couple dozen tomatoes.

You could try as many combinations as you wanted; I don't think you'd get a fair assessment if you tried each one only once. So A is better than B, and B is better than C; now you want to try A vs. C, rather than jumping to conclusions about A.
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I wonder if there is something you can eat or drink between the varieties - just a sip pf water or so. When sampling on the parfume aisle in a department store, they often have this bowl of coffee beans available to keep your olfactory senses clear.

Perhaps write down your impressions every time you take a bite - that way, you don't rely on your memory only.
My father worked as expert of groceries. I remember , that he used coffee beans too, but he toothed them. I remember too, that I didn´t like, when he came after tests of a strong drinks in the night.
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Only test 3 at a time LOL
It is rational reminder. I shall be tested in group first, always 3-4 varieties of alike tomatoes.
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I find the 0 to 10 scale in common use to be fine, but nobody ever seems to rate them less than a 6 anyway! Or maybe they just don't talk about those.

Do you prefer your rating to be as compared to other tomatoes or on its own merits? I would think it'd be easier to say, judge a tomato as better or worse than the best Cherokee Purple you've ever had, than to give it a rating based just on itself. Less useful for other people, though.

What I would do, for my own use, is taste the tomato, and give it a rating on a scale of 1 to 10, compared to that ideal Cherokee Purple, factoring in any condition issues. Then I would write down everything that occurred to me about it on the spot - color, taste specifics, balance, productivity, if I thought it would make good sauce, and so on. Wait a moment. Repeat with the next tomato.

I'd love to see a point-based scale. 10 points for flavor, 10 points for color appeal, 10 points for productivity, 10 points for hardiness... or whatever. So you can glance at a tomato rating to get an idea of how ideal it is, then read the sub-scores to see how it ranks in areas that matter to you. But I don't think that's gonna happen!
I can not use Cherokee Purple to the compare with other tomatoes. I have Cheroke Purple, but I plant its first year and I don´t know when it is mature and how it has taste.
My etalon is Cuor di Bue, what is not heart form (I say a sack, pocket, pouch)
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I never tried to give a 1-10 rating. Instead, I'd try 2 tomatoes alone and in tomato sandwiches, and write down my impressions of how they compared. It's not hard to do if you have only a couple dozen tomatoes.

You could try as many combinations as you wanted; I don't think you'd get a fair assessment if you tried each one only once. So A is better than B, and B is better than C; now you want to try A vs. C, rather than jumping to conclusions about A.
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Thank you all.
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Seriously here is what I do. I look at the tomato itself. Is it the size I need? What purpose am I growing it? Salad, sandwich or sauce? Does it make me say wow? Instead of comparing to each other I look for that WOW factor. That is why Black Krim and Brandywine are in my garden for the foreseeable future. Just look for the wow
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You could pick any tomato you've tried and liked to use as your "baseline". I just picked CP because it's what really stood out in my garden this year.

There's something to be said for judging each one on its own merits, and being flexible enough to add some "wow" tomatoes!
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Seriously here is what I do. I look at the tomato itself. Is it the size I need? What purpose am I growing it? Salad, sandwich or sauce? Does it make me say wow? Instead of comparing to each other I look for that WOW factor. That is why Black Krim and Brandywine are in my garden for the foreseeable future. Just look for the wow
I shall compare only beefsteak tomatoes for the eating. The other tomatoes no. I shall evaluate:
1.Only tomato
2.Tomato + salt
3.Bread, butter (or broiled lard),the cut of tomato and salt (this I am eating every day)
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You could pick any tomato you've tried and liked to use as your "baseline". I just picked CP because it's what really stood out in my garden this year.

There's something to be said for judging each one on its own merits, and being flexible enough to add some "wow" tomatoes!
Cherokee Purple is beautiful tomato. I have about twelve fruits at house, I tasted one from them and it wasn´t ripe. That is why CdB. Thank you.
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