Golden Queen

[Dutch]

Wow, this is one solid tomato! An olden golden beauty.
Dutch

[horses4jess]

That is a gorgeous tomato! How was the texture?

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by horses4jess

That is a gorgeous tomato! How was the texture?

The texture is kind of firm, definitely not not mushy or soft. I will grow it again next year.
Dutch

[Wi-sunflower]

Just curious - was that from some of the seeds I sent you ??

I ask because there are at least 2 versions of Golden Queen going around.

One that usually has "USDA" tacked to the name and is more well known. The version I have is originally a variety offered by Stokes Seeds and I usually add "Stokes" to the back of the name tho I'm not sure if all the packs I've sent out have that on there.

Carol

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Wi-sunflower

Just curious - was that from some of the seeds I sent you ??

I ask because there are at least 2 versions of Golden Queen going around.

One that usually has "USDA" tacked to the name and is more well known. The version I have is originally a variety offered by Stokes Seeds and I usually add "Stokes" to the back of the name tho I'm not sure if all the packs I've sent out have that on there.

Carol

There are actually 3 versions, and here's why.

The original Livingston one, which was originally a family heirloom that he found at a county fair, had a very distinct blush at the blossom end that moved upwards, but the fruits were not bicolored b'c there was no interior flesh.

it was either Craig L or myself who got seeds for it from the USDA which did represent what Livingston clearly said about it in his book. So it was either Craig or myself, or both of us, who put USDA on the seeds we had, well, I just checked the back of my book and the USDA was my source.

Golden Queen as sold by others more recently did not match what Livingston had said, so thus the USDA added to the name.

Carol, many seed sources sold Golden Queen, Stokes being just one of them. How does the Stokes one compare to the USDA one?

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w...n,_USDA_strain


THe pictures shown don't show the blush as well as they might.Actually the picture in my book is much better, humble though I am.

And note that also listed is Golden Queen itself as well as Pinetree, with links to both.

Livingston released the variety in 1882 and it's a very very good tasting variety with almost always high yield, at least grown by me in my zone 5 area.

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w...ueen,_Pinetree

I was curious about the Pinetree one, link above, but Tania said it did not grow true to type.

Carolyn

[ddsack]

Carolyn - I grew the Pinetree one also, and it looked like Tania's - it had more of an orange cast rather than the clear yellow it was supposed to be. You were the one who told me it was wrong when I posted pictures on Garden web.



I did grow the correct version later, I think from Victory, and it was much more productive, with medium sized tomatoes, not the large ones I got from Pinetree. They looked like what Dutch just posted. I wonder if Pinetree ever changed their source and got the right seeds.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by ddsack

Carolyn - I grew the Pinetree one also, and it looked like Tania's - it had more of an orange cast rather than the clear yellow it was supposed to be. You were the one who told me it was wrong when I posted pictures on Garden web.



I did grow the correct version later, I think from Victory, and it was much more productive, with medium sized tomatoes, not the large ones I got from Pinetree. They looked like what Dutch just posted. I wonder if Pinetree ever changed their source and got the right seeds.

Dee, I checked Victory seeds and Mike is saying clear yellow, with which I can't agree, and shows a picture.

it wasn't called GOLDEN queen for nothing and shouldn't be clear yellow OR Orange. Of course photography and human color peception are variables that can't be controlled, that we all know.

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...91.-1AZ_Z4rseQ

Google Images to show the different colors and shapes and some are dead wrong regardless. Look at the one from Victory Seeds in 2002 b'c it looks nothing like what Mike is showing now.

Ah well, we try.

Carolyn

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by Wi-sunflower

Just curious - was that from some of the seeds I sent you ??

I ask because there are at least 2 versions of Golden Queen going around.

One that usually has "USDA" tacked to the name and is more well known. The version I have is originally a variety offered by Stokes Seeds and I usually add "Stokes" to the back of the name tho I'm not sure if all the packs I've sent out have that on there.

Carol

Carol, I did get Golden Queen seeds from you that were clearly labeled as “Golden Queen, Stokes”. I grew them out several years ago and I also grew out some simply labeled as “Golden Queen” from Gary Ibsen that same year (I think it was 2011). Both were more orange in color than the ones that a got from Linda Sapp which were labeled as “Golden Queen, USDA Strain” which I grew out this year and is pictured in the first post of this thread.
Carol your “Golden Queen, Stokes” was also very good in real tomato flavor, fine texture and productivity. I appreciate the input from everybody. Thanks.
Dutch

[Wi-sunflower]

Carolyn,

I've never had the USDA strain so I can't compare with the Stokes version.

Stokes doesn't list a Golden Queen any more either. But they did list this for a good number of years and that is my source for the seeds I have. I probably first grew these in the 90s, if not before.

Carol