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Old March 7, 2014   #1
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Default I have a few seeds coming from Italy...anyone ever grow these?

Have you ever grown these? If so, how did you use them?


Cuore di Bue
Costoluto di Parma
Genovese E Fiorentino
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I Have not grown Costoluto di Parma or Genovese E Fiorentino. Where did you buy these? I have always been interested in the known varieties of Costoluto but have never heard of this one. The Fiorentino must be a cross of Costoluto Gernovese and Costoluto Fiorentino I am guessing? After you grow them out this year, I would really like some seed and will trade you anything I have, peppers or tomato. I have a rarer Costoluto called "Costoluto Sel Velente". And as always, on the hunt for the elusive Costoluto Mandarin.
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A friend of mine is sending them to me. Not sure where he got them.

I would be more than willing to send you some of the seed once I receive them. You have been more than generous with yours.
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I cant find anything in English on the Genovese E Fiorentino
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Have you ever grown these? If so, how did you use them?


Cuore di Bue
Costoluto di Parma
Genovese E Fiorentino

I grew Cuore di Bue last year (2013). They were healthy vigorous fairly productive plants. The fruits if allowed to ripen on the vine were about a 2 on a scale of ten. A real spitter.

But if picked green they make the best tasting fried green tomato you'll ever eat. Trying them fried was an act of desperation. Just hated to see all those beautiful tomatoes go to waste. Try it you'll love them.
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I LOVE fried green tomatoes!
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Cuor di Blue is a French tomato that is very popular in Italy for home gardeners. I think you will like it.
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I cant find anything in English on the Genovese E Fiorentino
And I meant "Costoluto Cantonesa" NOT "Mandarin"...Dang...I am really getting old and pathetic! I speak Italian...what did you find on the Genovese X Fiorentino?
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From other posts here at TV, I think "Cuore di Bue" is really just a generic term for "Ox heart" or "bull's heart" so you don't really know what variety you are getting with that 1.

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I Have not grown Costoluto di Parma or Genovese E Fiorentino. Where did you buy these? I have always been interested in the known varieties of Costoluto but have never heard of this one. The Fiorentino must be a cross of Costoluto Gernovese and Costoluto Fiorentino I am guessing? After you grow them out this year, I would really like some seed and will trade you anything I have, peppers or tomato. I have a rarer Costoluto called "Costoluto Sel Velente". And as always, on the hunt for the elusive Costoluto Mandarin.
Have you checked out Seeds from Italy ?
www.growitalian.com
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Have you checked out Seeds from Italy ?
www.growitalian.com
I ordered from them recently. Great service, large seed counts, well packaged.

Wish I could figure out how to put their products in the plant databases at All Things plants and Dave's Garden without creating confusion.

I ordered this tomato "Red Pear" from them.

http://www.growitalian.com/products/...-Red-Pear.html

Supposedly you can wash it, dry it off, freeze it whole, thaw it out and use it as a fresh tomato for winter. Sounds like hogwash, but I'm going to try it. Might be better than the winter cardboard available here.

I also ordered a couple of their cucumbers.

http://www.growitalian.com/cucumber-beit-alpha-38-16/
and
http://www.growitalian.com/cucumber-picollo-di-parigi/

along with this Roma Bean

http://www.growitalian.com/bean-pole...marconi-57-30/

Claud, hoping this didn't hijack your thread.
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Have you checked out Seeds from Italy ?
www.growitalian.com
They mainly have hybrids but the few heirlooms they offer I have grown and discarded as not suitable for my purposes. Most I grow is seed I have obtained while in Italy or traded with someone living there. But thank you anyway! I only grow for drying and sauce, no fresh eating. Need tomatoes that are very dry, few seeds, big, red only and a taste that improves with cooking. Narrows it down a lot!
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And I meant "Costoluto Cantonesa" NOT "Mandarin"...Dang...I am really getting old and pathetic! I speak Italian...what did you find on the Genovese X Fiorentino?

Actually what I found was Genovese E Fiorentini, I think it is a person. lol
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Heres a source for costoluto di parma

http://www.italiangardenseeds.com/ga...a-dbo-106-121/
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From other posts here at TV, I think "Cuore di Bue" is really just a generic term for "Ox heart" or "bull's heart" so you don't really know what variety you are getting with that 1.

Carol
That seems correct. I have seen Cuore di Bue seeds in several different kinds of packages in Italy with different pictures. It does not seem to be a single variety.
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