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Old May 5, 2014   #1
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I saw some postings here about mites and thought I had them. Bought an organic product with rosemary and.mint,etc. Sprayed all hundreds of tomatoes I was growing for our church sale that support s the food pantry. I should have diluted it but it said not to. First ones I sprayed looked good after 5 hrs, then right after I sprayed the rest the first ones started dying, stems pinched etc. I drenched them with water but I think they may be gone. I will know tomorrow I guess. So if they're gone, I am hoping that some of you from SE Wisconsin have extra tomato plants you are willing to donate. We usually sell 400-500, a mix of Big Beef, other heirlooms and hybrids, cherries,etc. Will post tomorrow and let you know how things are going. Thanks!
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oh no.... so sorry. I wonder if you told a local nursery of your trouble if they might help? I know that some in my area would help if they could.
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Oh man, I would help as I usually have plenty of extra seedlings and I'm close to you. But I had a fan in my germination chamber fail on me about a month ago and by the next day I lost about 2/3 of those seedlings. The lack of air movement and high humidity made them just "melt".

I hope someone else nearby is having better luck this spring.

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Where did I get the impression that spider mites are much more common in the southern climes and not the northern climes and that are seldom seen on inside growing seedlings?

https://www.google.com/#q=tomato+mites

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Chris, When is the church sale this year? I might be able to help. I should have some extra Big Beef and possibly some extra Golden Jubilee. Keep us posted on your situation.
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I saw some postings here about mites and thought I had them. Bought an organic product with rosemary and.mint,etc. Sprayed all hundreds of tomatoes I was growing for our church sale that support s the food pantry. I should have diluted it but it said not to. First ones I sprayed looked good after 5 hrs, then right after I sprayed the rest the first ones started dying, stems pinched etc. I drenched them with water but I think they may be gone. I will know tomorrow I guess. So if they're gone, I am hoping that some of you from SE Wisconsin have extra tomato plants you are willing to donate. We usually sell 400-500, a mix of Big Beef, other heirlooms and hybrids, cherries,etc. Will post tomorrow and let you know how things are going. Thanks!
Bad news. What is this "organic product with rosemary and.mint,etc" that you used?
There is only one way to confirm if you have spider mites—get a strong magnifier (10X or better) and look for them on the bottom of the leaves.

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Where did I get the impression that spider mites are much more common in the southern climes and not the northern climes and that are seldom seen on inside growing seedlings?

https://www.google.com/#q=tomato+mites

So teach me.

Carolyn
I had spider mites indoors last year when I brought some Alpine Strawberry plants indoors during the winter. I did kill them off well before I started any other seedlings that could have been hosts so no harm done but I won't be doing that again.
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Well, I don't know for sure what it was. I thought I had seen a post on here showing curling leaves and stems, which is how this started. Then I noticed crisp leaf edges to the point that the edges fell off. I don't think I have anything with high magnification around here, but will need to get something. I guess my camera would work, but I was panicking. I saw many dark red brown dots on the leaves and some white spots which could have been some kind of eggs maybe? EcoSmart is organic and made of Rosemary Oil, Peppermint Oil, Thyme Oil, Clove Oil and "other ingredients". I should have diluted it and I normally would. But like I said, I panicked. Well, time will tell, but many look like they will be okay. Wisconsin 55 is one that is gone completely. Doug, if you end up having extra Big Beef and possibly Golden Jubilee that would be great. I not it is okay. I am just glad many seem to have made it. We are working on trying to get WI 55 as that is a favorite of many.
Thanks again for everyone's help and advice.
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My indoor pepper plants in Minnesota got spider mites for the first time this winter, but the lone surviving tomato plant seemed unbothered
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My seedling suffer from the same crispy edges.... I think someone said it was thrips and to spray with soapy water... I finally did it last night - I hope I didn't hurt them too! I would totally donate my extras if I was closer!
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My indoor pepper plants in Minnesota got spider mites for the first time this winter, but the lone surviving tomato plant seemed unbothered
Strangely enough I have never had insect issues with my peppers...just cat issues. He loves to eat the leaves.
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My seedling suffer from the same crispy edges.... I think someone said it was thrips and to spray with soapy water... I finally did it last night - I hope I didn't hurt them too! I would totally donate my extras if I was closer!
I have had thrips in the past so maybe that was it. Then I did mix up some soapy water. This time I decided to try the store bought. It probably would have been fine if I had diluted it alot. I just was not thinking. Thanks or the offer of extras, wish we were closer; its greatly appreciated.

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Chris, When is the church sale this year? I might be able to help. I should have some extra Big Beef and possibly some extra Golden Jubilee. Keep us posted on your situation.
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The church sale is May 17 and May 18
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Farmette, I used that product once last year on mature squash plants. The next day the leaves were burned to a crisp! So don't feel bad! It could have just been the product. I hope you are able to get more plants for your sale.
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Chris, I will be donating the following 1020 flats of tomatoes to you for your church plant sale;
Two 18 count flats of WI 55
Two 18 count flats of Big Beef
Two 32 count flats of Golden Jubilee
Two 32 count flats of Rutgers
Hope that helps.
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Farmette, I used that product once last year on mature squash plants. The next day the leaves were burned to a crisp! So don't feel bad! It could have just been the product. I hope you are able to get more plants for your sale.

Thanks, it helps to know it probably would have happened even if they were larger more mature plants. Just because a product is organic does not guarantee that it will be non toxic to the plants. Maybe someone else has had a positive experience with this product.
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