Big Zac Hybrid

Rena · November 22, 2006

Yes, The seeds ARE available this year to those wondering. Catalog comes out next week. -R

Soilsniffer · November 22, 2006

Whoa! Bic Zac is back. Will the hype machine accompany?

**carolyn137** · November 22, 2006

Will the hype machine accompany?

Of course.

Ever since Minnie's Big Zac was offered I've looked at the weight of the fruits that folks have reported and none have come near to what she gets/got with the fruits she enters in the NJ Tomato Contest.

Actually there are others, all OP's, that I and others have grown that have the genetic capacity to grow as large or larger than what most folks get with Big Zac.

But the hype is there and folks who grow for competition size fruits want Big Zac, totally forgetting that the current World
's Record, held by Gordan Graham, now deceased, was a fruit that weighed 6# 12 oz, and that's with the readily available variety Delicious.

And so it goes.

Mantis · November 22, 2006

And stay tuned for the results from Michaels Portuguese Monster

Grub · November 22, 2006

How is your PM going, Manto?

I'm expecting big things from it and you.

Grub, off to the post office to send those Sophie's seeds and a few books Up Over. Sorry for the delay. One heck of a working month.

Mantis · November 22, 2006

Got one fruit set on the plant in the gh but none on the outside one as yet. Huge flowers

barkeater · November 22, 2006

Since I only have one seed left from the 10 I got 3 seasons ago, I am THRILLED!

Big Zac has turned out to be one of the best tasting red beefsteak tomatoes I've eaten. It is VERY productive, and every tomato I've eaten has consistently tasted great 2 years running. No other red beefsteak I've grown has matched it.

So what is this so-called "hype machine" about??

greggf · November 23, 2006

Carolyn, barkeater,

I know nothing about Big Zac, but I feel the same way about "Delicious" that bark feels about Big Zac. I don't grow Delicious for size, but for taste. Too bad it's so late and unproductive. Most people say it tastes blah.....

=gregg=

Grub · November 23, 2006

You two are so controversial.
The Tomato Shock Jocks

gardengalrn · November 23, 2006

With our move in the wings, I'm not sure how the garden will fare next year but have stated that we will need to make room in the moving van for some tomato plants. Michael's Portuguese Monster is one of them. My DH's dad seems a willing soul so I may start several seeds for him to raise. I want him to have a few Dopeys as well since I don't know what my predicament will be come next summer. I suspect that all of my garden will be of the container variety but I said that last year, LOL. Who knows? Lori

Spider · November 23, 2006

Glad to see the "Big One" back, I grew a Big Zac this year that weighed in at 3lb 4oz and was down to my last two original seeds for 2007 Garden.
Later....Spider

gwnorth · November 23, 2006

Hey Grub, no worries if the Sophie's seeds don't get here right away - it will get up to minus 20 C or so today, a high of minus 23 C on Sunday - mine won't need to be planted any time soon! Enjoy your time on the boat, mate.

michael johnson · November 23, 2006

I do hope my (Michael's Portuguese monster ) lives up to expectations alright, but if the size of the original tomatoes was anything to go by-it should give Big Zac a good run for its money, as they were bigger than that.

But as Mantis says- they appear to have huge flowers size on them, so its a good sign along the right track,for a start.

I sent out over fifty examples of the seed to all over the world-mainly in the USA, so we should see some good sport- and a winner emerging about next august/sept.

I am as excited about it as all the rest of you and will be growing Big Zac as well just for comparisons sake.

Some of my seed went to some very well know tomato growers on TV- some of the best,- much better than me probably, so we can expect some astonishing results at the final weigh in- but the differing types of soil and conditions in different parts of the world and temps etc, will prove which suits it best.

bluelytes · November 23, 2006

MICHAEL,
Well, THAT explains why I did NOT get any of your seeds re: "some very well know tomato growers on TV- some of the best,". I am neither well known OR the best, lol. J/K about not getting any,

Best Regards;
bluelytes

amideutch · November 23, 2006

Who is the vendor for the Big Zac comming out? Ami

November 22, 2006	#1
Rena Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Warm Springs, GA Posts: 1,421	Big Zac Hybrid Yes, The seeds ARE available this year to those wondering. Catalog comes out next week. -R

November 22, 2006	#2
Soilsniffer Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: z7, Richmond VA Posts: 187	Whoa! Bic Zac is back. Will the hype machine accompany? __________________ Identifying garlic is done mostly by consensus. Many are like trying to identify the difference between twins.

November 22, 2006	#3
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	Will the hype machine accompany? Of course. Ever since Minnie's Big Zac was offered I've looked at the weight of the fruits that folks have reported and none have come near to what she gets/got with the fruits she enters in the NJ Tomato Contest. Actually there are others, all OP's, that I and others have grown that have the genetic capacity to grow as large or larger than what most folks get with Big Zac. But the hype is there and folks who grow for competition size fruits want Big Zac, totally forgetting that the current World 's Record, held by Gordan Graham, now deceased, was a fruit that weighed 6# 12 oz, and that's with the readily available variety Delicious. And so it goes. __________________ Carolyn

November 23, 2006	#10
gardengalrn Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kansas, zone 5 Posts: 524	With our move in the wings, I'm not sure how the garden will fare next year but have stated that we will need to make room in the moving van for some tomato plants. Michael's Portuguese Monster is one of them. My DH's dad seems a willing soul so I may start several seeds for him to raise. I want him to have a few Dopeys as well since I don't know what my predicament will be come next summer. I suspect that all of my garden will be of the container variety but I said that last year, LOL. Who knows? Lori __________________ ~Lori "Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be." -Abraham Lincoln

November 23, 2006	#11
Spider Tomatovillian™ Honoree Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Zone 6 Kentucky Posts: 58	Big Zac Returns? Glad to see the "Big One" back, I grew a Big Zac this year that weighed in at 3lb 4oz and was down to my last two original seeds for 2007 Garden. Later....Spider __________________ "Old soldiers never die, they just play in dirt." Spider

November 22, 2006	#4
Mantis Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Oz Posts: 1,241	And stay tuned for the results from Michaels Portuguese Monster

November 22, 2006	#5
Grub Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,722	How is your PM going, Manto? I'm expecting big things from it and you. Grub, off to the post office to send those Sophie's seeds and a few books Up Over. Sorry for the delay. One heck of a working month.

November 22, 2006	#7
barkeater Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NE Kingdom, VT - Zone 3b Posts: 1,439	Since I only have one seed left from the 10 I got 3 seasons ago, I am THRILLED! Big Zac has turned out to be one of the best tasting red beefsteak tomatoes I've eaten. It is VERY productive, and every tomato I've eaten has consistently tasted great 2 years running. No other red beefsteak I've grown has matched it. So what is this so-called "hype machine" about??

November 23, 2006	#8
greggf Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Boonville, NY Posts: 419	Carolyn, barkeater, I know nothing about Big Zac, but I feel the same way about "Delicious" that bark feels about Big Zac. I don't grow Delicious for size, but for taste. Too bad it's so late and unproductive. Most people say it tastes blah..... =gregg=

November 23, 2006	#12
gwnorth Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Edmonton Alberta Posts: 85	Hey Grub, no worries if the Sophie's seeds don't get here right away - it will get up to minus 20 C or so today, a high of minus 23 C on Sunday - mine won't need to be planted any time soon! Enjoy your time on the boat, mate. __________________ Larry in the G W North

November 23, 2006	#13
michael johnson Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK. Posts: 960	I do hope my (Michael's Portuguese monster ) lives up to expectations alright, but if the size of the original tomatoes was anything to go by-it should give Big Zac a good run for its money, as they were bigger than that. But as Mantis says- they appear to have huge flowers size on them, so its a good sign along the right track,for a start. I sent out over fifty examples of the seed to all over the world-mainly in the USA, so we should see some good sport- and a winner emerging about next august/sept. I am as excited about it as all the rest of you and will be growing Big Zac as well just for comparisons sake. Some of my seed went to some very well know tomato growers on TV- some of the best,- much better than me probably, so we can expect some astonishing results at the final weigh in- but the differing types of soil and conditions in different parts of the world and temps etc, will prove which suits it best.

November 23, 2006	#14
bluelytes Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 250	MICHAEL, Well, THAT explains why I did NOT get any of your seeds re: "some very well know tomato growers on TV- some of the best,". I am neither well known OR the best, lol. J/K about not getting any, Best Regards; bluelytes

November 23, 2006	#15
amideutch Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany 49°26"N 07°36"E Posts: 5,041	Who is the vendor for the Big Zac comming out? Ami