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November 29, 2006 | #1 |
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So this tomato has been growing on the vine for 3 weeks...
When can I expect it to ripen so I can *EAT* it?
It's Brandywine Red and I first noticed it on 10/30. Other info: This particular plant has another 14 tomato buds on it. Right now... it's the most prolific plant in my container garden. I grow everything in those bootleg-Earthboxes!
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November 29, 2006 | #2 |
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The plant @ bottom right is this BW Red (staked with
bamboo only) It's planted with Sweet 100. It's the only container with 2 tomato plants in it.
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November 29, 2006 | #3 |
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If I need to drag this container with the BW Red to a garden
spot with longer sunshine, I can do that. 8)
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November 29, 2006 | #4 |
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Tomato fruits ripen on their own time and there's little you can do to hurry them along. They do NOT seed sun to ripen. Just look at how many ripen under the foliage cover of your other tomatoes.
Red Brandywine ( which is the way it should be referred to, Brandywine, Red, being used mainly for indexes at seed source sites, is a heavy producer. I was a little bit concerned when I looked at that first picture b'c I saw quite a few PL leaves. I also saw some that weren't PL and don't know if they are from an adjoining plant. And I'm not sure of the sahpe of that large fruit b'c it seems to be a distorted re photography. What was the source of your seeds? If from TGS know that there's only one true RB there and that's the one that has the Landis name attached to it. The other two labelled Red Brandywine are NOT Red Brandywine, one is PL and the other RL. Hope that helps.
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November 29, 2006 | #5 |
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Thanks Carolyn!
I've got the containers so close together to catch the most sun during the day! I got the seed from a fellow gardener on the web. That's what was labeled on the envelope. I know that Red Brandywine is NOT a PL variety though. But it sure is a heavy producer! I've never seen this kinda yield in my short gardening timespan. But if it tastes good... it's gonna be a keeper in my garden!
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November 29, 2006 | #6 |
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Darlette, I hope you have patience, as you've got a good month or more until it's a "red" brandywine.
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November 29, 2006 | #7 |
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I know that Red Brandywine is NOT a PL variety though
Darlette, When you look just at the leaves of RB what are they? PL or RL? And what would you call the shape of the fruits you see on that plant as opposed to what you might see for a real RB picture online? Getting something from someone on the web can be a bit tricky, and all I'm trying to do is to have some confidence that it's RB that you're really growing. Or was it an original unopened package of seeds you got or someone else's saved seeds?
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November 30, 2006 | #8 | |
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Quote:
Pic taken this morning with camera phone...
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November 30, 2006 | #9 | |
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Quote:
Patience isn't my strong suit... at all. I thought I noticed just "a hint" of a start to a blush comin' on... as I peeked in on it this afternoon.
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November 30, 2006 | #10 |
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Pic taken this morning with camera phone...
Ok, not PL. Does look like RB foliage to me. Let us know what you get when the fruits ripen up.
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December 1, 2006 | #11 |
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Yippppeeee!!! It's starting to blush!
These pics were taken this morning w/the camera phone... I can't keep track of ALL the new tomato buds I've noticed on this Red Brandywine plant.
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December 1, 2006 | #12 |
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on this Red Brandywine plant
Well I hope it's Red Brandywine, for your sake, b/c that bottom fruit on your latest picture sure doesn't look like the shape of RB. It definitely is beefsteak shaped and RB doesn't have beefsteak shaped fruits. It can get confusing b'c while Brandywine is PL, the leaves can have a notch or two on either side, while Red Brandywine is RL but has thickish wide leaves that can sometimes mimic it. So we'll wait for a few days for your AM phone pictures for this perhaps mystery to resolve itself. Look around to see if you see any other beefsteak shaped fruits on that plant. How I wish you knew what the ultimate origin of your seeds was, meaning, where the internet person you got them from got them, b'c I'm still thinking possibly one of the ones labelled RB from TGS that aren't RB. See the pictures of those two wrong beefsteak ones at the TGS website, as compared with true RB #5940.
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December 1, 2006 | #13 |
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What I'm growing looks a lot like this pic. I got this from the TGS website...
Brandywine (Red) Regular Leaf #5062 (30 seeds) $2.25 This is a version of Brandywine that offers red fruit with luscious old-time, red tomato flavor. Plants have regularly-shaped leaves and are extremely productive, bearing long harvests of these 10 to 16 ounce fruit. Heirloom from the late 1800's. Indeterminate. 80 days.
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December 1, 2006 | #14 |
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Darlette, if you look above that's one of the ones I referred to at TGS that is NOT Red Brandywine ( neither the PL or Rl version) even though they are listed as such. Linda knows it as well. And each year I try to get her to change those two but she says that many folks already have grown them with those descriptions and so she keeps it that way.
But one of these years I will prevail and get things righted. Notice I said above that only the Red Brandywine that is associated with the word Landis and is #5940 is the correct one for Red Brandywine.
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December 1, 2006 | #15 |
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Well...they's only one reason...i'd jump into the Fray....lol.. An its a selfish one..i admit...)))i Keep tryin to figure out a Buck's County Hybrid...cause i love it...)))
Darlette...Carolyn is tryin to tell you, for Good Reason...that simply what you growin out...is Not...a True Red Brandywine. And if the TGS people care to ....they can explain exactly what #5062 really is. I'll take C's Word on it...that number 5940 is the real McCoy. Heres a link, if you aint done seen it...http://www.tomatogrowers.com/midseason.htm A buck's County fruit resembles #5940 as shown, to a great degree, but to me...its slightly more orange in color when ripe. The #5062 pic is very Red, and quite Fluted. The 5940 fruits are smaller (8-12 ounce)....consistent with what Dr. C says is Correct for a Red BW, plus the fruits are smoother. I know this much...i need to grow out a REAL RED BW...to compare to a Buck's County Hybrid. Anybody got a clue what 5062 really is ? In any event...Darlette...im jealous...))) You gon have a Nice tomato to eat, there, in about 6 days...)))
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