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Old June 29, 2014   #1
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Default A Fertilizer I Wish That.......

.......I'd tried in the past ! Found it at True Value Hardware, of all places.

Used successfully last year on our Rose bushes, duh, read the bottle this spring and discovered that it's also acceptable for vegetable plants.

Named MORBLOOM, company is "Alaska", and purpose is to increase the number of flowers and promote more vigorous root growth. Can't say much right now about the roots.......but the number of FLOWERS on my plants are significantly
increased vs. expectations. If we continue to avoid heat waves, more tomatoes !

Content is zero nitrogen, at 0-10-10, "derived from phosphoric acid, muriate of
potash, and seagoing fish emulsion."

Goes to show, no matter how many years we've grown tomatoes, there's ALWAYS new stuff we can learn !`

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Old June 30, 2014   #2
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Sounds OK for a spot treatment for the tomatoes but they really do need to have nitrogen for good growth.

Sounds excellent for my Amaryllis bulbs. I will be getting some for them.
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Old June 30, 2014   #3
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I believe Roses and tomatoes have different needs.
There is phosphoric acid in Coke... wonder if one can use it, probably better as fert too...
Am thinking muriate of potash is harmful for soil food web?
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MORBLOOM is made by Lilly Miller. Basically a PK booster.
It is derived from phosphoric acid, muriate of potash and seagoing fish emulsion. How they use fish emulsion and not have any Nitrogen, I don't know. Maybe they have the fish emulsion diluted down so the N is well below 1% so they don't even count it in the NPK analysis?

Linda, you are right about muriate of potash (Potassium Chloride), even though Chloride is a micronutrient, too much Chloride in the soil is harmful to mycorrhizae and other microorganisms. Too much is also harmful to some Chloride sensitive plants.
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MORBLOOM is made by Lilly Miller. Basically a PK booster.
.......Linda, you are right about muriate of potash (Potassium Chloride), even though Chloride is a micronutrient, too much Chloride in the soil is harmful to mycorrhizae and other microorganisms. Too much is also harmful to some Chloride sensitive plants.
Linda and Ray,

You got me thinkin'..... so I googled a bit, and found something interesting. A
piece of scientific detailed research about growing tomatoes in a foreign
country (Pakistan). Specifically fertilizing with Muriate of Potash vs. another
alternative Potash stuff.

If I'm reading it correctly, there was a significant increase in yield as well as
protecting plants from blight ! Now THAT's something I'd like to experience !

http://www.pakbs.org/pjbot/PDFs/42(3)/PJB42(3)1695.pdf
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Linda and Ray,

You got me thinkin'..... so I googled a bit, and found something interesting. A
piece of scientific detailed research about growing tomatoes in a foreign
country (Pakistan). Specifically fertilizing with Muriate of Potash vs. another
alternative Potash stuff.

If I'm reading it correctly, there was a significant increase in yield as well as
protecting plants from blight ! Now THAT's something I'd like to experience !

http://www.pakbs.org/pjbot/PDFs/42(3)/PJB42(3)1695.pdf
I wouldn't count on it preventing Septoria.
The results are interesting for what they are for that one experiment in that location of Pakistan but it raises a lot of other questions. Are the results in yield and disease reduction reproducible year after year? They admit that their results run contrary to a similar experiment done elsewhere. "The difference regarding preferential response of tomato to K sources could be due to nature of tomato variety tested, soil and climatic condition etc."
They reveal that attention to K and micronutrient fertilization is not generally done in their country, but N and P are + manure. They say the soil PH was 7.73 which they consider normal for their soils.
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MissS, thanks for bring that use up for amaryllis. I forgot to feed the two bulbs that vacationed outside on the deck last summer. Maybe I should feed them now and let them take a long nap. I missed that that too last fall. Blooms for VD perhaps?

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... "derived from phosphoric acid, muriate of potash, and seagoing fish emulsion."
Muriate of Potash is Potassium chloride. Long term use will make your soil infertile.
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It is what salt substitute is.

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I just sprinkled some Tomato Tone 3-4-6 on my container tomato plants. Both my dogs stuck their noses into the soil. I have since learned that it contains feather meal, poultry manure and bone meal - YUM! I hope the tomatoes enjoy it as much as the dogs!

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The one good thing about muriate of potash is you can get a very high concentration of potash to your plants quickly without using much of it and it is far cheaper than any other easy to get source of potash. My soil was very low in potash the last few years. I assume from gardening in the same spot for almost 40 years so I used a little in each bed and it greatly increased my production of tomatoes and also fruit quality. I added a lot of green sand to my beds this year and hopefully that will get my potash levels up to nearer normal and I won't need to use muriate of potash for a while.

I too worried about the high salt content but I guess I didn't use too much because my garden the last two years has been more productive than ever. I doubt the small amount of salt in the liquid fertilizer you describe would affect your plants negatively.

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... I too worried about the high salt content ...
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I think you meant "chlorine" instead of "salt"? For the most part, fertilizers are salts ...
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