Top OP Yellow/Gold Slicers - Tomatoeville Talks

ScottinAtlanta · July 4, 2014

TV has accumulated a huge amount of subjective data from many users over many years. It is very difficult to make sense of it all. I have been trying to make a more rigorous use of the subjective data in TV posts to guide my own decisions in Atlanta. Here is an example:

I want to choose which golden/yellow slicers to plant in Atlanta.

I selected every thread that had Yellow or Golden in the title, and reviewed the posts, scoring recommendations, reason for recommendation, and location of poster. About 250 recommendations were scored across all posters.

I then created a subgroup of posters from the Deep South because I wanted to see if there were differences in recommendations. There were about 60 recommendations from the Deep South states.

The results are pictured below. It is clear that there are significant regional variations among recommendations.

The first chart shows the top 12 tomatoes recommended for ALL posters, charted against the % of Deep South recommendations for the same tomatoes. You can easily see that the Deep South had very significant differences in what was recommended. For example, only 7.69% of all posters recommended KBX, while over 12% of Deep South posters recommended KBX. By contrast, Azoychka was among the most popular among all posters (over 7%) but not popular in the Deep South (less than 2%).

The second chart shows the top 9 tomatoes recommended by Deep South posters, charted against the % of ALL recommendations for the same tomatoes. You can see substantial differences again. I would probably have neglected Toms Yellow Wonder and Lillian's Yellow Heirloom, which are much more popular in the Deep South than among all posters.

I also scored reasons for recommendation, and so can divide recommendations among flavor, earliness, production, disease resistance, and other.

This brief and perhaps superficial assessment of subjective posts is helpful to me in choosing my yellow/gold slicers for Atlanta. It took me 3 hours to do this, so it is not really very difficult.

Here are the threads I reviewed for this work:

http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...ellow+tomatoes
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...ellow+tomatoes
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...=angora+orange
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...ellow+tomatoes
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...ellow+tomatoes
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=33185
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...ellow+tomatoes
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...ellow+tomatoes
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...ellow+tomatoes
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...ellow+tomatoes
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...ellow+tomatoes
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...ellow+tomatoes

nancyruhl · July 4, 2014

You gotta love those economists and their charts. Very interesting. Kellogg's Breakfast didn't make it to the second list but KBX is on both. I would think you could use only one of these. In my shorter season, KB performs better. Apparently, not so for everyone.

Wouldn't really call Juane Flamee a slicer.

Next years list will probably have Sweet Ozark Orange as the top choice for both lists, right?

ginger2778 · July 4, 2014

Really nice work Scott. KBX seems to be the bottom line.

gssgarden · July 4, 2014

Love me some KBX! One of my favs. That's it in my avatar! Almost 2 lbs!

Tom's Yellow wonder did great for me and it's growing right now!

Another one that did great was Golden Cherokee. Biggest OP producer two years ago.

Greg

ddsack · July 4, 2014

Nice work, Scott! I'm impressed with your sleuthiness and diligence. Interesting to see where my favorites fall.

Father'sDaughter · July 4, 2014

Thanks for doing the homework for us!

Only one I've grown (so far) is AGG and the flavor was amazing. However, it only produced a couple of fruit all season so it wasn't given a spot this year.

KB and KBX are both on my "to grow someday" list, but I guess KBX will move up to the "grow next year" list!

walt456 · July 4, 2014

I'm growing KBX, Azoychka, and Yellow Brandywine this year thanks to the recommendations of forum members. I'm also growing Buckeye Yellow and Sweet Ozark Orange. I'm determined to find a yellow/gold tomato I like.

peppero · July 4, 2014

Thank you for providing all the insight Scott. I am sure many of us will benefit from your efforts.

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SharonRossy · July 4, 2014

Well for sure I'm not in the Deep South, but I liked AGG, am growing KB this year and have seeds for KBX for next year. Also growing Azoychka, Jaune Flamme and Valencia. I grew seeds for brandywine yellow platfoot but gave them away, so I won't be able to comment. But that's great work! Interesting results.

Barb_FL · July 4, 2014

Thanks for your efforts; I live in Florida, and have never even heard of most of those.

I've only grown Kelloggs, Sweet Ozark Orange, and Dagma's Perfection; all this spring.

Kelloggs was the hands down winner for me in both taste and # of tomatoes; I am going to grow a lot more Kelloggs plants for the fall season.

I started SwOO late, so I will try again; but I only got 3 tomatoes.

Dagma's just must take a LONG time, b/c I didn't get any tomatoes but the plant looks healthy, so I am going to try to keep it alive / healthy for the fall season.

Will definitely try KBX for the fall.

bower · July 4, 2014

Nice work, Scott! But don't forget, those results also reflect the 'most grown' and 'best known', so they may leave out some good ones..

Just sayin, there's no excuse for you not to try a lot more than you have listed, which might after all do well in the deep south and be delicious too.

The best large yellow tomato I've grown so far is Zolotye Kupola (Golden Domes). Very nice, far from the deep south it's true. But you never know..... until you tried it.

MrBig46 · July 5, 2014

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottinAtlanta

TV has accumulated a huge amount of subjective data from many users over many years. It is very difficult to make sense of it all. I have been trying to make a more rigorous use of the subjective data in TV posts to guide my own decisions in Atlanta. Here is an example:

I want to choose which golden/yellow slicers to plant in Atlanta.

I selected every thread that had Yellow or Golden in the title, and reviewed the posts, scoring recommendations, reason for recommendation, and location of poster. About 250 recommendations were scored across all posters.

I then created a subgroup of posters from the Deep South because I wanted to see if there were differences in recommendations. There were about 60 recommendations from the Deep South states.

The results are pictured below. It is clear that there are significant regional variations among recommendations.

The first chart shows the top 12 tomatoes recommended for ALL posters, charted against the % of Deep South recommendations for the same tomatoes. You can easily see that the Deep South had very significant differences in what was recommended. For example, only 7.69% of all posters recommended KBX, while over 12% of Deep South posters recommended KBX. By contrast, Azoychka was among the most popular among all posters (over 7%) but not popular in the Deep South (less than 2%).

The second chart shows the top 9 tomatoes recommended by Deep South posters, charted against the % of ALL recommendations for the same tomatoes. You can see substantial differences again. I would probably have neglected Toms Yellow Wonder and Lillian's Yellow Heirloom, which are much more popular in the Deep South than among all posters.

I also scored reasons for recommendation, and so can divide recommendations among flavor, earliness, production, disease resistance, and other.

This brief and perhaps superficial assessment of subjective posts is helpful to me in choosing my yellow/gold slicers for Atlanta. It took me 3 hours to do this, so it is not really very difficult.

Here are the threads I reviewed for this work:

http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...ellow+tomatoes
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...ellow+tomatoes
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...=angora+orange
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...ellow+tomatoes
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...ellow+tomatoes
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=33185
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...ellow+tomatoes
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...ellow+tomatoes
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...ellow+tomatoes
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...ellow+tomatoes
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...ellow+tomatoes
http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...ellow+tomatoes

What Yellow tomatoes will you grow next year?
Vladimír

ScottinAtlanta · July 5, 2014

KBX again, see if Sweet Ozark Orange performs this year, and if it does, will plant again, and trial Lillians Yellow Heirloom and Toms Yellow Wonder.

I find that the big yellows are by far the most exciting tomatoes on the table in Atlanta. People just love them. I am looking for a dependable 3-4 OP heirlooms that I can keep planting. I have found only one - KBX.

KarenO · July 5, 2014

The best yellow tomato I have ever grown was a 20 oz yellow brandy wine a few years ago.velvety smooth and delicious beyond belief. Unfortunately too late to do well here most years. Last year I grew orange Minsk from Carolyn and the flavour was wonderful again a little late for this short season . This year excited to try sweet ozark orange and dagmas perfection both set fruit early for me so that is a great sign
K

Cole_Robbie · July 5, 2014

I really like yellow brandywine, too, but yield was atrocious.

Taxi is my favorite yellow tomato to grow.

July 4, 2014	#5
ddsack Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Northern Minnesota - zone 3 Posts: 3,231	Nice work, Scott! I'm impressed with your sleuthiness and diligence. Interesting to see where my favorites fall. __________________ Dee **************

July 4, 2014	#8
peppero Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: selmer, tn Posts: 2,944	Thank you for providing all the insight Scott. I am sure many of us will benefit from your efforts. jonr

July 4, 2014	#2
nancyruhl Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan Posts: 1,051	You gotta love those economists and their charts. Very interesting. Kellogg's Breakfast didn't make it to the second list but KBX is on both. I would think you could use only one of these. In my shorter season, KB performs better. Apparently, not so for everyone. Wouldn't really call Juane Flamee a slicer. Next years list will probably have Sweet Ozark Orange as the top choice for both lists, right?

July 4, 2014	#3
ginger2778 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Plantation, Florida zone 10 Posts: 9,283	Really nice work Scott. KBX seems to be the bottom line.

July 4, 2014	#4
gssgarden Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N.C. Posts: 1,827	Love me some KBX! One of my favs. That's it in my avatar! Almost 2 lbs! Tom's Yellow wonder did great for me and it's growing right now! Another one that did great was Golden Cherokee. Biggest OP producer two years ago. Greg

July 4, 2014	#6
Father'sDaughter Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: MA/NH Border Posts: 4,919	Thanks for doing the homework for us! Only one I've grown (so far) is AGG and the flavor was amazing. However, it only produced a couple of fruit all season so it wasn't given a spot this year. KB and KBX are both on my "to grow someday" list, but I guess KBX will move up to the "grow next year" list!

July 4, 2014	#7
walt456 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: VA Posts: 235	I'm growing KBX, Azoychka, and Yellow Brandywine this year thanks to the recommendations of forum members. I'm also growing Buckeye Yellow and Sweet Ozark Orange. I'm determined to find a yellow/gold tomato I like.

July 4, 2014	#9
SharonRossy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,140	Well for sure I'm not in the Deep South, but I liked AGG, am growing KB this year and have seeds for KBX for next year. Also growing Azoychka, Jaune Flamme and Valencia. I grew seeds for brandywine yellow platfoot but gave them away, so I won't be able to comment. But that's great work! Interesting results.

July 4, 2014	#10
Barb_FL Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Indialantic, Florida Posts: 2,000	Thanks for your efforts; I live in Florida, and have never even heard of most of those. I've only grown Kelloggs, Sweet Ozark Orange, and Dagma's Perfection; all this spring. Kelloggs was the hands down winner for me in both taste and # of tomatoes; I am going to grow a lot more Kelloggs plants for the fall season. I started SwOO late, so I will try again; but I only got 3 tomatoes. Dagma's just must take a LONG time, b/c I didn't get any tomatoes but the plant looks healthy, so I am going to try to keep it alive / healthy for the fall season. Will definitely try KBX for the fall.

July 4, 2014	#11
bower Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 6,794	Nice work, Scott! But don't forget, those results also reflect the 'most grown' and 'best known', so they may leave out some good ones.. Just sayin, there's no excuse for you not to try a lot more than you have listed, which might after all do well in the deep south and be delicious too. The best large yellow tomato I've grown so far is Zolotye Kupola (Golden Domes). Very nice, far from the deep south it's true. But you never know..... until you tried it.

July 5, 2014	#13
ScottinAtlanta Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 2,593	KBX again, see if Sweet Ozark Orange performs this year, and if it does, will plant again, and trial Lillians Yellow Heirloom and Toms Yellow Wonder. I find that the big yellows are by far the most exciting tomatoes on the table in Atlanta. People just love them. I am looking for a dependable 3-4 OP heirlooms that I can keep planting. I have found only one - KBX.

July 5, 2014	#14
KarenO Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 5,931	The best yellow tomato I have ever grown was a 20 oz yellow brandy wine a few years ago.velvety smooth and delicious beyond belief. Unfortunately too late to do well here most years. Last year I grew orange Minsk from Carolyn and the flavour was wonderful again a little late for this short season . This year excited to try sweet ozark orange and dagmas perfection both set fruit early for me so that is a great sign K

July 5, 2014	#15
Cole_Robbie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Illinois, zone 6 Posts: 8,407	I really like yellow brandywine, too, but yield was atrocious. Taxi is my favorite yellow tomato to grow.