Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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August 13, 2014 | #1 |
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Your opinon:
This odd blunt medium ribbed heart is from one of my potato leaf F2 plants of Ludmilla's pink heart x Captain Lucky. I think it is an unusual colour. not really pink, or red and it's not black either. The last two photos taken outside in natural light show true colour at least on my computer. darker red marbling inside.
They are nearly seedless, strong rich flavour, I think it would make a super sauce and it tastes great as a slicer too. What colour do you say it is? Purple? KarenO |
August 13, 2014 | #2 |
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To me it looks a lot like Artic Rose. It is not pink or purple but it is a pretty color and what you say about the taste is how I think about Artic Rose's taste. One of my favorite crayons as a child was magenta so I think this tomato is Magenta Magic.
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August 13, 2014 | #3 |
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Karen,
I looks like the flesh does have some persistent chlorophyll, so it must have picked up the gf (green flesh) gene from Captain Lucky. if the epidermis is clear (it appears to be) then yes, I would call it a Purple. It looks like a winner - along with the potato leaf, you have a nice collection of recessive genes in that segregate. You should continue selecting for best flavor. Did you plant that outside in Alberta? Is it typical to have large fruit ripen this early in Alberta? Good luck with future development, Steve |
August 13, 2014 | #4 |
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No, I don't see it as purple. Purple was used up to the 30's or so to describe a pink tomato. Think of Aunt Ginny's Purple, Eva Purple Ball, Prudens Purple and on and on, all pink.
The only ones I know of that have some true purple areas/color, would include: Noire de Cosebeauf, a beautiful scalloped fruit, but the taste is not for me Purple Calabash, again, taste not for me Purple Smudge, ditto Orange Fleshed Purple Smudge, ditto Karen, some might call the color you show a dusky pink, I'm OK with that, but not with purple. Carolyn
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August 13, 2014 | #5 |
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Hi Steve, thank you very much for your opinion which I respect. Yes, I typically start with ripe large slicers from usually the third week in July onward. The plants growing outdoors in my sheltered city yard tend to ripen first with the plants out in the wide open community garden typically about two weeks later. I generally don't like "early" tomatoes and so I mostly choose earlier midseason varieties as I enjoy the big slicers, most especially hearts best. I start seeds in the house under lights at the end of March, move the seedlings out to my small greenhouse in mid April and then plant out very large and usually blooming plants at the end of May. I have no evidence but I do have a theory that the long day length this far north 0400- 2300 in June makes a difference in at least some ripening earlier here than people expect. My mission in life is to convince northern gardeners to look beyond the Ho hum ordinary red small sour earlies and grow some gorgeous midseason slicers too
Karen QUOTE=Heritage;427576]Karen, I looks like the flesh does have some persistent chlorophyll, so it must have picked up the gf (green flesh) gene from Captain Lucky. if the epidermis is clear (it appears to be) then yes, I would call it a Purple. It looks like a winner - along with the potato leaf, you have a nice collection of recessive genes in that segregate. You should continue selecting for best flavor. Did you plant that outside in Alberta? Is it typical to have large fruit ripen this early in Alberta? Good luck with future development, Steve[/QUOTE] Last edited by KarenO; August 13, 2014 at 10:51 PM. |
August 13, 2014 | #6 |
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I have grown a lot of pink tomatoes and this is darker and the gel , what little there is) is a dark green. It seems to me that it is sort of a black tomato but with a clear epidermis. In any event, it tastes great and is a ribbed heart on a potato leaf plant so has some features that are unusual. It is also early enough to grow here successfully. I think I will work with it and select for taste and earliest ripening.
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August 13, 2014 | #7 |
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Looks like you'll be challenged to capture many seeds in that beauty.
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August 13, 2014 | #8 |
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Nine seeds in total in this fruit but there are more on the plant
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August 14, 2014 | #9 |
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Looks very yummy, I like dusky pink description and share your idea about early large ones.
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August 14, 2014 | #10 |
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KarenO,
You have replied to so many of my posts and questions. Thank You To me, a man, your tomato looks red with very few seeds. I hope you don't mind my caveman way of seeing it Kar |
August 14, 2014 | #11 |
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I like your way Kar, It's simpler. I think it is a magenta dusky pink purplish red tomato. That's easy to remember. Lol thank you
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August 14, 2014 | #12 |
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To me it looks beautifurous.
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August 14, 2014 | #13 |
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Lovely work!
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August 14, 2014 | #14 |
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Mouth watering!
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Just name it Mdppr. Carolyn, who really is excited with many of the results that you're getting out of that cross and sharing with us, but not as excited as you are, I'm sure. And initial thanks to Reinhard Kraft in Germany for the Ludmilla's Pink Heart I offered in my seed offer and to Millard (winterfly), for Captain Lucky as well.
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