General information and discussion about cultivating all other edible garden plants.
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Black Pepper. or pepper corns like you grind not chili's.
Did you know if you have a green house and can keep the temps above 60F or so you can grow this stuff? It is a vine, I had no idea it was a vine. Then they have what they call the long pepper that grows the same way. Vines in Vietnam. ![]() Seeds. ![]() Long black pepper try to find this in the store. ![]() Almost $50 a pound. ![]() ![]() ![]() Worth |
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Got me some seeds one year,soaked them,froze them,sanded them(scarcify)everything them but to no avail.Then got some plants,nice vine,two years,no pods.Advice, get the record by Carly Simon "Anticipation",second hint,whole bunch at the markets,pink,white,reds and black.Have fun and good luck.
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No way am I going to try it. ![]() Worth |
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I am on somewhat "prepper"voyage in regards to gardening and some of the other modes.So far have got the tobbaccos,cotton,kale,tea,sugar cane,corn,poppy,sunflower and working on the knowledge base for the neccessarys and more.Mainly for stockpiles(product and seed)and barter if needed.
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Did you know cotton was domesticated at least 4 times in 4 separate areas.
Once in Africa once in Asia and twice in the Americas. The only plant or animale that has had this done to it. The camel comes in next as the Asian and African species. The African/Middle Eastern dromedary and the Asian bactrain. These two are crossed to make the super camel. Camels hauling salt but could just as easily been hauling black pepper from India after it was off loaded from boats to camels to take to Egypt. Where it it was distributed throughout Europe by way of the Mediterranean. ![]() Worth Last edited by Worth1; September 6, 2014 at 03:31 PM. |
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![]() ![]() I read where people here didn't treat them right and were mean to them. Failure of the U. S. Camel Cavalry was more due to Americans’ attitude toward the animals than to any shortcoming on the camels’ part. In their native lands, camels are of such value that they are treated with great care, but to many Americans they would forever remain a foreign abomination. Moreover, they would not suffer neglect or cruelty without swift retaliation. Think about that the next time you pause at a zoo to observe one of God's most incredible creatures. If I could rase a Brahman bull up to ride and be a pet I bet I would do just fine with a camel. A pretty good example of what my sweet baby bull looked like. ![]() ![]() Worth |
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![]() ![]() I read where people here didn't treat them right and were mean to them. Failure of the U. S. Camel Cavalry was more due to Americans’ attitude toward the animals than to any shortcoming on the camels’ part. In their native lands, camels are of such value that they are treated with great care, but to many Americans they would forever remain a foreign abomination. Moreover, they would not suffer neglect or cruelty without swift retaliation. Think about that the next time you pause at a zoo to observe one of God's most incredible creatures. If I could raise a Brahman bull up to ride and be a pet I bet I would do just fine with a camel. A pretty good example of what my sweet baby bull looked like. ![]() ![]() Worth |
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Just a bit of trivia - a string of Bactrian camels were shipped to B. C. from San Francisco in 1862. They were used for shipping supplies in the Cariboo during the gold rush. Apparently they only lasted six months or so, their bad tempers and odd smell frightened all the other pack animals (mules, horses and oxen) and caused them to bolt and sometimes fall to their deaths on the mountainous trails. Also their feet, used to softer desert sands, took a beating on the rocky trails. I think some of them were just turned loose, and some were driven back down to the lower mainland.
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I bought a black pepper plant in the spring. I'm always up for a challange.
It's growing well! ![]() I grew a cactus from seed and waited 30 years for it to flower. Was it worth it? Probably not! But this is only a few years, no big deal! I have fruit trees older that still have not fruited! Yeah three years for my peach trees to fruit. When the cactus was big enough, it bloomed like crazy! ![]() |
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Drew looks good I hope you get some pepper in 2 years.
If I could find a plant I would buy it. I might just start looking around. Maybe I could make a miniature India in the house. ![]() Worth |
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![]() I have found some of the most unusual nurseries on the net. Actually dozens exist, if not hundreds that sell very strange plants. I found the pepper at two nurseries. I bought it at this one http://www.accentsforhomeandgarden.c...l?catId=292138 |
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Nice bull, Worth.
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What a load of bull Worth!
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Mines name was George.
He was a sweet baby. ![]() Worth |
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