Meaty cherry or grape ?

nicollas · March 21, 2015

Hi !

I'm in search of tomato varieties the size of cherry or grape with a meaty texture (low juice/water) and a thick skin or crack resistant. Or see from another point a kind of paste tomato of smaller size.

The one i've spotted are Principe Borghese, Blush, Thai Pink Egg. But i guess there should be more than that. Any idea ?

Thanks

FarmerShawn · March 21, 2015

As much as I love Blush, I wouldn't call it meaty with low juice. Same with the PB. Haven't tried the other one. We really like Juliet, a hybrid that's a large grape type, but has quite firm flesh (which makes it great for fresh salsa like pico de gallo).

KarenO · March 21, 2015

The bumblebee series has a thicker skin. Also super snow white and brandywine cherry were nice and meaty for me. For a small plum/paste shape, black plum is excellent. It's a small saladette size black. Larger than a cherry but smaller than a regular tomato. great flavour, very pretty dark mahogany/brick colour with slight green shoulders.
KarenO

jmsieglaff · March 21, 2015

Last year I grew Purple bumblebee. I would describe it as meaty, though still somewhat juicy. Thicker skin and it did not crack. A beautiful tomato. Pretty good flavor. Good production and good leaf cover.

Cole_Robbie · March 22, 2015

I grew Joe Laurer's Pink German Egg last year, and it is very meaty. They have to ripen to almost red before they are very sweet, though. Mine were smaller in size than a chicken egg, something between a cherry and a saladette. The plants were extremely vigorous and productive. I saved a lot of seeds if anyone wants any.

Also, Chang Li, a Chinese yellow pear, is extremely meaty and sweet if you want a yellow cherry. I also have seeds of it.

RJGlew · March 22, 2015

Juliet F1

Dutch · March 22, 2015

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Originally Posted by RJGlew

Juliet F1

Ditto! Juliet

Dutch

nicollas · March 22, 2015

Thanks for all the inputs so far, very helpful !

To clarify, the only i've grown from my first post is PB, the other i've spotted on descriptions

FarmerShawn · March 22, 2015

Yeah, we grow lots of Juliets (up to ten or twelve plants, even though they are very prolific producers). It's my wife's favorite to can, because she likes to can whole tomatoes, and they are fairly easy to peel. They also dehydrate easily, despite being a bit more juicy than a typical "paste" type. And they roast fantastically, if that's a thing you like to do. I also take them to the Farmers Market, and they do pretty well there, too, with a nice, traditional, not-too-sweet "tomatoey" flavor - a sample often sells them. To top it off, in my garden they are relatively bullet-proof, continuing to produce when all around them have been laid low by some fungal disease or other.

RJGlew · March 22, 2015

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Originally Posted by FarmerShawn

Yeah, we grow lots of Juliets (up to ten or twelve plants, even though they are very prolific producers). It's my wife's favorite to can, because she likes to can whole tomatoes, and they are fairly easy to peel. They also dehydrate easily, despite being a bit more juicy than a typical "paste" type. And they roast fantastically, if that's a thing you like to do. I also take them to the Farmers Market, and they do pretty well there, too, with a nice, traditional, not-too-sweet "tomatoey" flavor - a sample often sells them. To top it off, in my garden they are relatively bullet-proof, continuing to produce when all around them have been laid low by some fungal disease or other.

Thank you for sharing this. I had not thought to try canning Juliet, but I think I'll try this summer - placed on end they should really fill the jars effectively. I like Juliet, and it ripens pretty well here in Zone 3a.

ChrisK · March 22, 2015

Orange Santa F1. Crunchy and sweet.

Ditto on Juliet F1. We use them solely for drying though.

charline · March 23, 2015

Microbeicum occemus: beefsteak-shaped cherries

a new variety from J and L is Petit chocolat. It is also a beefsteak-shaped little cherry. I will grow it for the first time this year
http://jandlgardens.com/catalog/inde...roducts_id=188

WhippoorwillG · March 23, 2015

I have grown Tom's Wild Kingdom for a couple years and all of them to this point have met your criteria. They are all very meaty with thick skinned.

They are green fleshed (at least the "expected" type is). I have plenty of F4(assuming I started with F2s?) seed available if you want to give it a go.

The stripes vary, as does the size of the egg shaped fruit, from less than 1/2 oz up to 3/4 oz.

If you want a safe bet, there have been some great recommendations in the above posts.

nicollas · April 2, 2015

Thanks for the further inputs, really helpfull. Thanks for the seeds offers but im in France so i dont want you to pay more for shipping costs !

charline · April 2, 2015

I am from France too
I can send you seeds in autumn for the next season
or may be you join the site www.semeur.fr and do seed exchanges there, I am member there member name Charline

March 21, 2015	#1
nicollas Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: France Posts: 142	Meaty cherry or grape ? Hi ! I'm in search of tomato varieties the size of cherry or grape with a meaty texture (low juice/water) and a thick skin or crack resistant. Or see from another point a kind of paste tomato of smaller size. The one i've spotted are Principe Borghese, Blush, Thai Pink Egg. But i guess there should be more than that. Any idea ? Thanks

March 21, 2015	#2
FarmerShawn Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,001	As much as I love Blush, I wouldn't call it meaty with low juice. Same with the PB. Haven't tried the other one. We really like Juliet, a hybrid that's a large grape type, but has quite firm flesh (which makes it great for fresh salsa like pico de gallo). __________________ "Red meat is NOT bad for you. Now blue-green meat, THAT'S bad for you!" -- Tommy Smothers

March 21, 2015	#3
KarenO Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 5,931	The bumblebee series has a thicker skin. Also super snow white and brandywine cherry were nice and meaty for me. For a small plum/paste shape, black plum is excellent. It's a small saladette size black. Larger than a cherry but smaller than a regular tomato. great flavour, very pretty dark mahogany/brick colour with slight green shoulders. KarenO Last edited by KarenO; March 21, 2015 at 11:43 PM.

March 22, 2015	#9
FarmerShawn Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,001	Yeah, we grow lots of Juliets (up to ten or twelve plants, even though they are very prolific producers). It's my wife's favorite to can, because she likes to can whole tomatoes, and they are fairly easy to peel. They also dehydrate easily, despite being a bit more juicy than a typical "paste" type. And they roast fantastically, if that's a thing you like to do. I also take them to the Farmers Market, and they do pretty well there, too, with a nice, traditional, not-too-sweet "tomatoey" flavor - a sample often sells them. To top it off, in my garden they are relatively bullet-proof, continuing to produce when all around them have been laid low by some fungal disease or other. __________________ "Red meat is NOT bad for you. Now blue-green meat, THAT'S bad for you!" -- Tommy Smothers

March 22, 2015	#11
ChrisK Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,448	Orange Santa F1. Crunchy and sweet. Ditto on Juliet F1. We use them solely for drying though. __________________ Blog: chriskafer.wordpress.com Ignorance more frequently begets knowledge: it is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science. --Charles Darwin

March 21, 2015	#4
jmsieglaff Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Southern WI Posts: 2,742	Last year I grew Purple bumblebee. I would describe it as meaty, though still somewhat juicy. Thicker skin and it did not crack. A beautiful tomato. Pretty good flavor. Good production and good leaf cover.

March 22, 2015	#5
Cole_Robbie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Illinois, zone 6 Posts: 8,407	I grew Joe Laurer's Pink German Egg last year, and it is very meaty. They have to ripen to almost red before they are very sweet, though. Mine were smaller in size than a chicken egg, something between a cherry and a saladette. The plants were extremely vigorous and productive. I saved a lot of seeds if anyone wants any. Also, Chang Li, a Chinese yellow pear, is extremely meaty and sweet if you want a yellow cherry. I also have seeds of it.

March 22, 2015	#6
RJGlew Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 646	Juliet F1

March 23, 2015	#12
charline Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: France Posts: 688	Microbeicum occemus: beefsteak-shaped cherries a new variety from J and L is Petit chocolat. It is also a beefsteak-shaped little cherry. I will grow it for the first time this year http://jandlgardens.com/catalog/inde...roducts_id=188

March 23, 2015	#13
WhippoorwillG Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Hartwell, Georgia Posts: 174	I have grown Tom's Wild Kingdom for a couple years and all of them to this point have met your criteria. They are all very meaty with thick skinned. They are green fleshed (at least the "expected" type is). I have plenty of F4(assuming I started with F2s?) seed available if you want to give it a go. The stripes vary, as does the size of the egg shaped fruit, from less than 1/2 oz up to 3/4 oz. If you want a safe bet, there have been some great recommendations in the above posts. __________________ Mark Whippoorwill Gardens

April 2, 2015	#14
nicollas Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: France Posts: 142	Thanks for the further inputs, really helpfull. Thanks for the seeds offers but im in France so i dont want you to pay more for shipping costs !