Both PL and RL....same variety...likely cause?

Douglas14 · May 8, 2015

I'm growing a heart-shaped variety that is supposed to be RL. I purchased the seeds from a seed company. I ended up with one RL and I think 5 or 6 PL plants. could this be a cross between this RL heart-shaped variety, and a PL variety? If a stable RL variety, and a stable PL variety crossed, would the F-1 result be PL? I consider myself quite careful when sowing my tomato seeds, so I'm sort of ruling out grower error, although I wouldn't bet the farm on it(if I had a farm).

I plan to grow the RL plant, and am now wondering if I should grow a PL plant or two, to see what I get?

Doug

ginger2778 · May 8, 2015

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Originally Posted by Douglas14

I'm growing a heart-shaped variety that is supposed to be RL. I purchased the seeds from a seed company. I ended up with one RL and I think 5 or 6 PL plants. could this be a cross between this RL heart-shaped variety, and a PL variety? If a stable RL variety, and a stable PL variety crossed, would the F-1 result be PL? I consider myself quite careful when sowing my tomato seeds, so I'm sort of ruling out grower error, although I wouldn't bet the farm on it(if I had a farm).

I plan to grow the RL plant, and am now wondering if I should grow a PL plant or two, to see what I get?

Doug

Douglas, RL is dominant, so the F1 would show the RL. This could change if at least one parent was also an F1, 2, etc. but if both parents were OP, then the F1 would be RL. Breeders often use a PL mother and RL father when crossing the 2 varieties, just to see if the F1 is RL. That way they know their cross"took".

efisakov · May 8, 2015

Marsha, is it possible that Doug will get PL heart-shaped?

ginger2778 · May 8, 2015

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Originally Posted by efisakov

Marsha, is it possible that Doug will get PL heart-shaped?

Yes!

efisakov · May 8, 2015

Hey Doug, heart PL are rare. Please, please, ... grow as many as you can.

Douglas14 · May 14, 2015

Thanks for the info. Ginger. For what it's worth, I had my numbers a little wrong. 3 plants are PL and one RL.

efisakov...I potted up one of the PL plants, and may plant it in isolation, to see what I end up with.
I'm cutting back a little on garden size, so I don't want to take on too many experiments. If I do grow it out, and a PL heart develops, I'll keep you in mind for seeds.

efisakov · May 16, 2015

Douglas, what is the name of the variety?

ginger2778 · May 16, 2015

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Originally Posted by Douglas14

Thanks for the info. Ginger. For what it's worth, I had my numbers a little wrong. 3 plants are PL and one RL.

efisakov...I potted up one of the PL plants, and may plant it in isolation, to see what I end up with.
I'm cutting back a little on garden size, so I don't want to take on too many experiments. If I do grow it out, and a PL heart develops, I'll keep you in mind for seeds.

oh oh me me meeee toooo please!!!

heirloomtomaguy · May 16, 2015

Both Douglas and myself received the same seed from the same company. It is Couer de Bouef de Jerusalem. I too have Pl hearts growing.

Did i mention i have a very small fuit set and plenty of flowers to boot. Now im patiently waiting.

**carolyn137** · May 16, 2015

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Originally Posted by heirloomtomaguy

Both Douglas and myself received the same seed from the same company. It is Couer de Bouef de Jerusalem. I too have Pl hearts growing.

Did i mention i have a very small fuit set and plenty of flowers to boot. Now im patiently waiting.

Tania doesn't list it so I had to Google it.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...f+de+jerusalem

So where did you and Doug get seeds from and I ask b'c Tomordori and Ventmarin don't sell seeds, those two I know well, but I don't know the other sources, but you two would.

Just curious.

Carolyn

heirloomtomaguy · May 16, 2015

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Originally Posted by carolyn137

Tania doesn't list it so I had to Google it.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...f+de+jerusalem

So where did you and Doug get seeds from and I ask b'c Tomordori and Ventmarin don't sell seeds, those two I know well, but I don't know the other sources, but you two would.

Just curious.

Carolyn

I will send you a pm with the name as i do not want out member here, not that this is a bad thing.

May 8, 2015	#1
Douglas14 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 602	Both PL and RL....same variety...likely cause? I'm growing a heart-shaped variety that is supposed to be RL. I purchased the seeds from a seed company. I ended up with one RL and I think 5 or 6 PL plants. could this be a cross between this RL heart-shaped variety, and a PL variety? If a stable RL variety, and a stable PL variety crossed, would the F-1 result be PL? I consider myself quite careful when sowing my tomato seeds, so I'm sort of ruling out grower error, although I wouldn't bet the farm on it(if I had a farm). I plan to grow the RL plant, and am now wondering if I should grow a PL plant or two, to see what I get? Doug

May 8, 2015	#3
efisakov Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: NJ, zone 7 Posts: 3,162	Marsha, is it possible that Doug will get PL heart-shaped? __________________ Ella God comes along and says, "I think I'm going to create THE tomato!”

May 8, 2015	#5
efisakov Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: NJ, zone 7 Posts: 3,162	Hey Doug, heart PL are rare. Please, please, ... grow as many as you can. __________________ Ella God comes along and says, "I think I'm going to create THE tomato!”

May 16, 2015	#7
efisakov Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: NJ, zone 7 Posts: 3,162	Douglas, what is the name of the variety? __________________ Ella God comes along and says, "I think I'm going to create THE tomato!”

May 16, 2015	#9
heirloomtomaguy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2013 Location: glendora ca Posts: 2,560	Both Douglas and myself received the same seed from the same company. It is Couer de Bouef de Jerusalem. I too have Pl hearts growing. Did i mention i have a very small fuit set and plenty of flowers to boot. Now im patiently waiting. __________________ “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it."

May 14, 2015	#6
Douglas14 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 602	Thanks for the info. Ginger. For what it's worth, I had my numbers a little wrong. 3 plants are PL and one RL. efisakov...I potted up one of the PL plants, and may plant it in isolation, to see what I end up with. I'm cutting back a little on garden size, so I don't want to take on too many experiments. If I do grow it out, and a PL heart develops, I'll keep you in mind for seeds.