Mortgage Lifter

gunrunner · January 2, 2016

Please tell me your experience with this plant good or bad. Have heard good and bad things and would like to know how well it did for you.

Thanks
Mike

Carriehelene · January 2, 2016

First in my garden to get septoria. Fruit size was all over the map, ranging from marble size to full size. Produced a lot of fruit. Taste to me was ok. Will probably give it another chance this year.

Ricky Shaw · January 2, 2016

Nice story, but typecast and has problems getting good rows.

wildcat62 · January 2, 2016

Love the story but I've had less than successful results multiple times. To each his own though, it may turn out great for you.

clkeiper · January 2, 2016

I was underwhelmed with it and that was 5 or more years ago that I tried it.

sjamesNorway · January 2, 2016

There are at least 11 strains. Estler's is on three lists in the "...return to your garden in 2016" thread.

**carolyn137** · January 2, 2016

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Originally Posted by sjamesNorway

There are at least 11 strains. Estler's is on three lists in the "...return to your garden in 2016" thread.

But the Estler one is not the same as the other Mortgage Lifters.

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w...er,_Estler%27s

Yes, the story that Jeff MCormack put up at SESE when he owned it about the 4 varieties that were part of the parentage is interesting, but as the link above shows, it is not the Radiator Charlie, of Logan WV one.

Havng grown several so called strains of ML I never saw anything special about them at all.

But I did like the Estler one, which I got from Chuck and have offered it in some seed offers here at Tville quite recently, my seeds from Neil L in IL.

Carolyn

UFXEFU · January 2, 2016

I grew Mortgage Lifter in 2015, under wet rainy weather conditions. Yield was average 5 on a 10 scale. Nice large fruit most were 16 to 18 oz. Taste was good (7/10). In think they were Radiator Charlie, got my seed from Marsha.

SueCT · January 2, 2016

This is the problem with asking for comparisons of opinions on some of the most common heirlooms, but most often with ML and Brandywine. If you didn't all grow the same "strain", you could be giving opinions on different tomatoes, which is pretty useless. I was impressed with the ML plants I bough locally less than 50% of the time. I kept trying because every once in a while I would have a good one. Try Estler's if you are going to try one, and if you can find it. If not, I would really pass it by until the Estler's is more commercially available again. Once I do a germination test on the seeds I saved last summer, I will be happy to share if they are any good.

Gardeneer · January 2, 2016

Anytime there is a discussion of RC Mortgage Lifter then they bring up the name of Estler ML.
The two just share the ML. That is all. They are two different variety and are not related by parentage , as far as I know. The controversy seems to be that Radiator Charley got the name and made money on it. The two men lived in different locations and probably they did not even know each other.

On the RC ML: I bought a Bonnie plant in 2013 and grew it. It was a dud. Like what "Carriehelene " said. I will not take a chance with it again.

Gardeneer

SueCT · January 2, 2016

Gunrunner did not ask about RC Mortgage Lifter or Estler's, he just asked about Mortgage Lifter. So are you assuming everyone that ever says just Mortgage Lifter must mean RC? Because I never do. I always assume, if they don't specify, that they may not be aware there are totally different tomatoes called ML. And if each person giving their opinions/experiences does not know or does not say which they are talking about, is that assumed? Because if so, I was not aware of that.

Ricky Shaw · January 2, 2016

There's a lot of peer pressure just being a Mortgage Lifter, no wonder they don't perform better.

Worth1 · January 2, 2016

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Originally Posted by Ricky Shaw

There's a lot of peer pressure just being a Mortgage Lifter, no wonder they don't perform better.

Stage fright.

Worth

Ed of Somis · January 2, 2016

Glad to read reports of "underwhelmed" growers of ML. That was my take, also. Wanted to love it...just couldn't.

SueCT · January 2, 2016

By the way, the Estler's ML is one of my favorites. So if you have only tried RC, then you just haven't tried a good ML.

January 2, 2016	#1
gunrunner Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: memphis tn Posts: 81	Mortgage Lifter Please tell me your experience with this plant good or bad. Have heard good and bad things and would like to know how well it did for you. Thanks Mike

January 2, 2016	#5
clkeiper Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ohio Posts: 4,350	I was underwhelmed with it and that was 5 or more years ago that I tried it. __________________ carolyn k

January 2, 2016	#2
Carriehelene Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 300	First in my garden to get septoria. Fruit size was all over the map, ranging from marble size to full size. Produced a lot of fruit. Taste to me was ok. Will probably give it another chance this year.

January 2, 2016	#3
Ricky Shaw Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Zone 6a Denver North Metro Posts: 1,910	Nice story, but typecast and has problems getting good rows.

January 2, 2016	#4
wildcat62 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2014 Location: Zone 6 Northern Kentucky Posts: 1,094	Love the story but I've had less than successful results multiple times. To each his own though, it may turn out great for you.

January 2, 2016	#6
sjamesNorway Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Norway Posts: 1,049	There are at least 11 strains. Estler's is on three lists in the "...return to your garden in 2016" thread.

January 2, 2016	#8
UFXEFU Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Gloster, Lousiana 71030 Zone 8a Posts: 253	I grew Mortgage Lifter in 2015, under wet rainy weather conditions. Yield was average 5 on a 10 scale. Nice large fruit most were 16 to 18 oz. Taste was good (7/10). In think they were Radiator Charlie, got my seed from Marsha.

January 2, 2016	#9
SueCT Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,460	This is the problem with asking for comparisons of opinions on some of the most common heirlooms, but most often with ML and Brandywine. If you didn't all grow the same "strain", you could be giving opinions on different tomatoes, which is pretty useless. I was impressed with the ML plants I bough locally less than 50% of the time. I kept trying because every once in a while I would have a good one. Try Estler's if you are going to try one, and if you can find it. If not, I would really pass it by until the Estler's is more commercially available again. Once I do a germination test on the seeds I saved last summer, I will be happy to share if they are any good.

January 2, 2016	#10
Gardeneer Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: NC - zone 8a - heat zone 7 Posts: 4,919	Anytime there is a discussion of RC Mortgage Lifter then they bring up the name of Estler ML. The two just share the ML. That is all. They are two different variety and are not related by parentage , as far as I know. The controversy seems to be that Radiator Charley got the name and made money on it. The two men lived in different locations and probably they did not even know each other. On the RC ML: I bought a Bonnie plant in 2013 and grew it. It was a dud. Like what "Carriehelene " said. I will not take a chance with it again. Gardeneer

January 2, 2016	#14
Ed of Somis Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Somis, Ca Posts: 649	Glad to read reports of "underwhelmed" growers of ML. That was my take, also. Wanted to love it...just couldn't.