How come I can't find PLUM tomato seeds?

bydsign · February 3, 2007

Are they the same as "paste tomatoes?"

Don't blame me if I don't know. My momma didn't teach
me.

Oh... and can you recommend a good variety for growing?

Thanks!

8)

michael johnson · February 3, 2007

I cant understand why you cant find any plum tomatoes or seeds etc, as there are literally thousands of them on sale in supermarkets , and seed merchants usually carry dozens of plum tomato types. especialy italian seeds - www.seedsofitaly.com

**carolyn137** · February 3, 2007

Darlette, as you should now know I answered your same question as posted elsewhere and tomororw I'll cut and paste the answer here.

But briefly, no, plum tomatoes are NOT the same as paste tomatoes, for there are very large plum shaped varieties that are not used for paste, and I made some variety suggestions for you as well, and also shared with you that most folks prefer to use great tasting varieties for sauce, and usually NOT paste tomato varieties.

So will cut and paste that and transfer it from AOL to IE/

**mdvpc** · February 3, 2007

Off topic, Darlette, but what kind of yoga do you practice? My wife and I practice Bikram's and also Iyengar.

bydsign · February 4, 2007

Whew! Had to take a Super Bowl festivity break there...

Thanks for all the replies!

Re: the yoga... I don't think I'd like Bikram at all. That's
the HOT yoga, right? My hairdo is a series of tiny, long
braids and I don't like the idea of sweating that much and
then washing all those braids!

Upon the advice of my chiropractor, I started practicing
about 2 years ago. Now there's a yoga mat that stays in
place in 3 rooms in my house -- my office, the den, and
my bedroom! I can't believe how it's helped me so!

Let's see... my yoga class says Hatha yoga. I have a
favorite teacher because of her voice... mainly... and she's
also just a lovely person.

OK... back to tomatoes...

I think what I'm really looking for is a plum-shaped 'mater
to use in salads and for bruschetta. Yum! Yum!

With this new info in mind, let me revisit my new book:
100 Heirloom Tomatoes for the American Garden.
**preparing bib...**

bydsign · February 4, 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by michael johnson

I cant understand why you cant find any plum tomatoes or seeds etc, as there are literally thousands of them on sale in supermarkets , and seed merchants usually carry dozens of plum tomato types. especialy italian seeds - www.seedsofitaly.com

You could have forewarned me that they have MORE
than just tomato seeds ya' know!

cdntomato · February 4, 2007

Astanga is HOT yoga.

Michael, I just KNEW I liked you and R.!!!

Darlette, you now have the source/font of credible tomato information. I highly recommend Heidi, but think Kiev may be much what you're looking for in terms of what's in the BOOK.

Jennifer, a real fan of the 5 Tibetans too (the yoga rites not the tomato 'Tibetan')

**carolyn137** · February 4, 2007

Darlette,

I don't have any Heidi seeds, which is a great suggestion, but I do have fresh seeds of Mama Leone which I think is just as great as Heidi, a variety introduced by bcday, who posts here and in the SSE Yearbook and I'm trying to push it out to some commercial places, b'c it deserves greater attention in my opinion.

Mostly plum shaped, about 4-6 oz, some even looked like cute mini-hearts, and great taste for that type of tomato, which works well for sauces and for fresh eating and if you want some just send me an e-mail with your address and I'll get a few seeds out to you.

I offered it in my recent seed offer here as well.

**mdvpc** · February 4, 2007

Darlette-Yes Bikram's is hot-room is 105 degrees-Its a series of 26 poses done twice each, with a breathing exercise at the beginning and the end. All the Bikram studios in the world have the same routine-so if you go to a class in Phoenix or Albuquerque, or L.A. or wherever, its the same routine.

Jenifer-Have never done the 5, but it looks interesting to me. Hope you are doing well. That mini-red cherry you sent me is the best tasting compact cherry I have ever grown-nice sized cherry fruit, compact plant, firm and doesnt crack, juicy, etc. I had to hide them from my wife. Let me know if you need seed back.

**mdvpc** · February 4, 2007

Carolyn-My Mama Leone experience was so bad last year-Its one of the varieties that got some pesticide drift and died. Really wanted to try it last year-this year its in the rotation again (have to double check that). Heidi does great for me cause of the climate here. It was the first variety I got after getting your book.

Sicilian Plum is also a great variety for me-Huge fruit-about 10-12 oz and great tasting.

Incidentally, Carolyn, if you need a dwarf/compact grown out to replenish your seed stocks, I will be pleased to do it in my greenhouse next fall for you. Just ask.

montanamato · February 4, 2007

Carolyn, I lost my Mama Leone seedling last summer too. I am growing it again this year...I always forget about Heidi as I know Glenn has it, but then when I order I never include it....I should give it a try next year...No, I don't need seed, as I was just mapping out my tomatoes and am already 15 varieties over my limit !

Michael, I am growing Sicilian Plum this year and hoping for great things !

Jeanne

LoreD · February 4, 2007

The american company that stocks Franchi seeds is www.growitalian.com

LoreD

**mdvpc** · February 4, 2007

Jeanne-I think you will like it. Its a great tasting, relatively unknown variety. Dont know why its not talked about more.

cdntomato · February 4, 2007

Ditto for me on the poor Mama Leone experience last year. My fault not the variety's. It's on the rotation for 2007 as are Heidi, my fat-bottomed Canuck-Italians and a 'few' others for Jeanne's Italian grow-out.

Jeanne, I hope the seeds I'm sending aren't an addition to those 15

. I'm envisioning you turning the stables and barns into greenhouses soon.

Michael, I will PM back with a seed request. Thanks so much for your patience and understanding. So glad some of the shorties I've sent are doing well for you two.

Jennifer,
debating whether to send the next batch of seed c/o Rosa. (teehee)

**mdvpc** · February 4, 2007

Jenifer-just let me know what you need. Yes, it might help to send them to the boss (Rosa).

February 3, 2007	#1
bydsign Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Zone 10 - South Florida Posts: 91	How come I can't find PLUM tomato seeds? Are they the same as "paste tomatoes?" Don't blame me if I don't know. My momma didn't teach me. Oh... and can you recommend a good variety for growing? Thanks! 8) __________________ Darlette

February 3, 2007	#3
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	Darlette, as you should now know I answered your same question as posted elsewhere and tomororw I'll cut and paste the answer here. But briefly, no, plum tomatoes are NOT the same as paste tomatoes, for there are very large plum shaped varieties that are not used for paste, and I made some variety suggestions for you as well, and also shared with you that most folks prefer to use great tasting varieties for sauce, and usually NOT paste tomato varieties. So will cut and paste that and transfer it from AOL to IE/ __________________ Carolyn

February 3, 2007	#4
mdvpc Tomatoville® Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 4,386	Off topic, Darlette, but what kind of yoga do you practice? My wife and I practice Bikram's and also Iyengar. __________________ Michael

February 4, 2007	#5
bydsign Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Zone 10 - South Florida Posts: 91	Whew! Had to take a Super Bowl festivity break there... Thanks for all the replies! Re: the yoga... I don't think I'd like Bikram at all. That's the HOT yoga, right? My hairdo is a series of tiny, long braids and I don't like the idea of sweating that much and then washing all those braids! Upon the advice of my chiropractor, I started practicing about 2 years ago. Now there's a yoga mat that stays in place in 3 rooms in my house -- my office, the den, and my bedroom! I can't believe how it's helped me so! Let's see... my yoga class says Hatha yoga. I have a favorite teacher because of her voice... mainly... and she's also just a lovely person. OK... back to tomatoes... I think what I'm really looking for is a plum-shaped 'mater to use in salads and for bruschetta. Yum! Yum! With this new info in mind, let me revisit my new book: 100 Heirloom Tomatoes for the American Garden. *preparing bib...* __________________ Darlette

February 4, 2007	#8
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	Darlette, I don't have any Heidi seeds, which is a great suggestion, but I do have fresh seeds of Mama Leone which I think is just as great as Heidi, a variety introduced by bcday, who posts here and in the SSE Yearbook and I'm trying to push it out to some commercial places, b'c it deserves greater attention in my opinion. Mostly plum shaped, about 4-6 oz, some even looked like cute mini-hearts, and great taste for that type of tomato, which works well for sauces and for fresh eating and if you want some just send me an e-mail with your address and I'll get a few seeds out to you. I offered it in my recent seed offer here as well. __________________ Carolyn

February 3, 2007	#2
michael johnson Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK. Posts: 960	I cant understand why you cant find any plum tomatoes or seeds etc, as there are literally thousands of them on sale in supermarkets , and seed merchants usually carry dozens of plum tomato types. especialy italian seeds - www.seedsofitaly.com

February 4, 2007	#7
cdntomato Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Kingston, Ontario Posts: 554	Astanga is HOT yoga. Michael, I just KNEW I liked you and R.!!! Darlette, you now have the source/font of credible tomato information. I highly recommend Heidi, but think Kiev may be much what you're looking for in terms of what's in the BOOK. Jennifer, a real fan of the 5 Tibetans too (the yoga rites not the tomato 'Tibetan')

February 4, 2007	#11
montanamato Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Montana Posts: 1,038	Carolyn, I lost my Mama Leone seedling last summer too. I am growing it again this year...I always forget about Heidi as I know Glenn has it, but then when I order I never include it....I should give it a try next year...No, I don't need seed, as I was just mapping out my tomatoes and am already 15 varieties over my limit ! Michael, I am growing Sicilian Plum this year and hoping for great things ! Jeanne

February 4, 2007	#12
LoreD Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chicago Suburbs Posts: 306	The american company that stocks Franchi seeds is www.growitalian.com LoreD __________________ Its not what you get to keep in life, its what you get to give away.