Brandywine Pink - Sudduth Strain

[Hudson_WY]

This Brandywine Pink SS Heirloom variety has been a pleasant surprise for us so far this season. This is the first year we have planted Brandywine SS and it is the most aggressive of the varieties we planted at the same time to date. It already set fruit (at 8 weeks from seed) and most trusses have 5-8 blossoms/buds. The truss in the photo has 12 blossoms/buds! I don't expect this plant to be very prolific from other reviews - but that remains to be seen! The taste, of course, is why we wanted to finally grow Brandywine SS Heirloom!

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by Hudson_WY

This Brandywine Pink SS Heirloom variety has been a pleasant surprise for us so far this season. This is the first year we have planted Brandywine SS and it is the most aggressive of the varieties we planted at the same time to date. It already set fruit (at 8 weeks from seed) and most trusses have 5-8 blossoms/buds. The truss in the photo has 12 blossoms/buds! I don't expect this plant to be very prolific from other reviews - but that remains to be seen! The taste, of course, is why we wanted to finally grow Brandywine SS Heirloom!

Most call it the Quisenberry/Sudduth one for the reason you'll see in the following link and that b'c it was Ben Quisenberry,a tomato legend, if you will,see the Legend Forum where his grandson appeared and told us a lot about his grandfather who first got it from Doris Sudduth Hill, and it's my favorite one of all the various versions of Brandywine out there and I've grown many of them.

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/B...e,_Sudduth%27s

Carolyn

[Hudson_WY]

Hi Carolyn,
Yes, in fact - it was what I read in your book "100 Heirloom Tomatoes for the American Garden" about this strain that motivated me to grow it! If I understand your comments in your book correctly - Brandywine Pink SS was your favorite of all Brandywine's in both taste and production. I do vibrate blossoms to increase fruit set and to date - all blossoms that I can see have set fruit. I am also impressed how well the plant is responding in cooler temps as my GH since January has been on a thermostat regulated between 50 - 85 degrees - although I just last week turned the heat up to 60 degrees now that I have so many tomato plants in blossom.

[ChiliPeppa]

Is there a difference between Pink Brandywine and Pink Brandywine Sudduth's strain? Or is it the same tomato?

[wildcat62]

One of my favorites from last year which was the first year I had tried it. Took a while for the fruit to ripen but once they started they produced right up to cold weather. Even with EB robbing them of a lot of foliage. Planning on putting them out again this year. Largest variety I had last year and tasted great.
Very popular with family & friends....

[Hudson_WY]

Hi Chilipeppa,
You may want to do a little reading about both strains on the following links. I grew Brandywine Pink a few years ago - the taste was great but was disappointed with the quantity. I decided to try Brandywine Pink Sudduth after reading about it in Carolyn's book. I'll make updates to let you know how it does for me. I suggest you try them both so you can compare. Or start with the variety that sounds most promising to you.

Brandywine Pink Sudduth:
http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w...e,_Sudduth%27s

Brandywine Pink:
http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Brandywine

[ChiliPeppa]

Thanks!

[TC_Manhattan]

While you're trying Brandywine Sudduth, don't forget to try Brandywine OTV, too.

OTV is a big red beefsteak, instead of Sudduth which is pink, but oh man does it produce!

Last year (which is the first year I tried it) it produced two-fisted picture-perfect red tomatoes. Wish I had a scale, because some of them had to weigh over 2 lbs. They looked like the poster child for heirloom tomatoes.

Both are awesome!

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by ChiliPeppa

Is there a difference between Pink Brandywine and Pink Brandywine Sudduth's strain? Or is it the same tomato?

Very good qustion, but difficult for me to answer but I'll try.

IN the SSE YEarbooks there is an entry just called Brandywine, and it's in the PINK section of tomatoes so we're talking about just a pinkBrandywine.There are many listings there but not many references to any of the othe rso called strains,and I'll get back to strains later.

There's absolutely no way to know what they are as to strains and indeed some could be Sudduth,some could be this or that strain.

That's followed by the so called strains of Brandywine,in order of listing

from Croatia, and lots of debate about that one

OTV which is very wrong since it's red and I should know that since I was the one who grew it out when Craig L sent out Yellow Brandywine and was sent back seeds by one person that were red. OTV is not pure Brandywine anyway,since it was the result of a X pollination.

Brandywine PInk,which is redundant since Brandywine is pink, we're talking about the PINK section of the yearbook, andnostgrainsmention,

Cowlicks

Glicks

joyce's

Liams, which is not a pure Brandywine, and shouldn't be called one ,it appeared in the garden of------who was helping Craig L grow out what became Lucky Cross.

The Liams is part Brandywine,part Tad,and probably part Anna Russian

Pawers,which is my fave since it was a typo that has been preserved. The strain,or whatever,was listed by Roger Wentling who lives in PA whose SSE code is

PA W R,gotit?

Then a long section labelled Suddth.

There are two ways at looking what a strain is,one is the most common and that's that the person listing a variety uses their own name for the listing and one can see that with some of the BRandywines. Same with most of the Mortgage Lifter ones where personal names are attached.

There are many who have grown out the various B's and M's but no consensus will ever be reached b/c of the many variables,geographic location,different years and on and on.

Same with the 2 Cherokee Purple PL ones and the originalRL CP.

The other meaning of strain is when a variety is found that resembles the original,with subtle changes,but can still be Ided as the original. An example of that is Yellow Brandywine (PLatfoot)since it was garyPlatfoot of OH who first found it and it's know that the original YB was roughly from the same area..

I've grown ALL of the above except for Croatia and Cowlicks and for many years was the US President of the anti Brandwine association, but the first time I grew the Quisenberry/Sudduth one,I was sold.Much smoother,less cracking,better taste.

OK,time to punch the time clock since I was here for 8 hours yesterday and I'm not doing it again.

Carolyn

[ChiliPeppa]

Well thats about as clear as mud. LOL. But thanks Carolyn. Some one gave me a packet labeled Pink Brandywine and I assumed that that meant Sudduth's.

[Hudson_WY]

Originally Posted by ChiliPeppa

Well thats about as clear as mud. LOL. But thanks Carolyn. Some one gave me a packet labeled Pink Brandywine and I assumed that that meant Sudduth's.

Hi Chilipeppa - I think you will have to assume they are not Sudduth's! Unless of course you can trace the seed packet back to the source and verify what they are. I wouldn't assume any Brandywine seed is Sudduth unless the name "Sudduth" is included in the name on the seed packet. When I purchased my seeds - I even called the seed supplier to verify and make sure the were the Sudduth strain.

You may as well plant them though and see how you like Pink Brandywine?! You still have time to order Sudduth strain and compare?

[Gardeneer]

Yes, the nurseries aroun here sell Brandywine, PL. I bough one in 2014 and planted. Didn't get even a single ripe tomato off of it.
So, as Carolin has said

There's absolutely no way to know what they are as to strains and indeed some could be Sudduth,some could be this or that strain.

[ChiliPeppa]

I've already started and planted them. I'll try Sudduth's next year. Iknow I have the tomato virus cuz I'm already thinking of next year's list.

[Hudson_WY]

Chilipeppa,
Please keep us posted and let us know how the plant performs, including production and taste!

[ChiliPeppa]

OK! I'm in the desert so its all a crapshoot