Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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March 16, 2016 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
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Cool Coastal 2016 early prolific favourites....
Just wondering if some of you have your
cool coastal prolific favourites for 2016 to recommend ..... It matters not what colour , or size of fruit or leaf type , dwarf or full size etc. Just well suited for coastal "cool " and prolific and early . (sets fruit at low temps) What are your best ? " This year 20016 " I am most happy with : Cosmonaut Volkov , Yaponskiy karlik , Silvery Fir, Demidov, Venus , EM Champion Nevsky
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I am trying this one , for thr first time. This is how Territoria Seeds describes it: I bough the seeds off the rack.
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March 16, 2016 | #3 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Calgary, Alberta Canada
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Sebastopol is a good prolific red cherry.
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March 16, 2016 | #4 |
Tomatovillian™
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I would check Tatianastomatobase offerings because she grows in similar conditions. Also, Caseys heirloom seeds.
I have grown Coastal Pride Orange and am very pleased. Early, prolific and dwarf with bright orange tasty somewhat elongated fruit. I hopefully will be trying the red version this season. |
March 16, 2016 | #5 |
Tomatovillian™
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good suggestions I find if I go for a variety that is 80 or more days it is can be risky due to our lack of heat in summer .... even with the generous frost free days.... so I tend to stick with ones rated 75 days or less . I will look the varieties mentioned up. Thanks
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May 31, 2016 | #6 |
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The difference between first fruit set and first fruit harvest
Wow ! it pays here to still believe in the cool coastal varieties ....set fruit early in cool conditions........
I am good with Cosmonaut Volkov , Gregori's Altai and Black Prince all with fruit set ........ At this point in time on the cool coast they are ahead of the hybrids like Big Beef and Juliet ......... I have quite the respect now for Gregori's Altai as it also flourished in our record breaking heat in years past ....while other cool set varieties were slowed down quite a bit .. They might not actually be the first ripe fruit harvested ...but at least they are set and on the way and Indeterminate ! Happy Season all you Cool Climate Growers !
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May 31, 2016 | #7 |
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My standouts for earliness is New Girl F1, and Maglia Rosa. Orange Blossom F1 is just slightly behind. I started them quite early though, on Feb 28.
New Girl F1 has lots of fruit, biggest ones are ping-pong sized, big sturdy plants too. Some MR have fruits about half-way to mature size. They are all earlier than Big Beef, Sungold, and Mountain Fresh, for comparison. This year is probably earlier than usual, I am harvesting raspberries and strawberries already. My plum trees and pear trees are all full of little green fruit too, going to be a great harvest later. |
June 1, 2016 | #8 |
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ah ha ...have successfully utilized that tricky part of the season with the OP cool varieties
from about May 1st till May 21st ...Some do not put out Tomatoes on the coast Till June 1st !!.......... The early boost is most welcome as some years ...you never know Bam that first Cold Fall rain can happen anytime after August 15th ...and then 3 days later Late Blight wraps up the season quick ! (So include Legend and Juliet in your Tomato portfolio for late blight insurance LOL) I am really amazed that the cool varieties can utilize an extra month here that the regular hybrids do not respond as well .. because it is to cool for them .
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June 1, 2016 | #9 |
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At this point it seems too late to add any new varieties. As I have said before , I am growing several of OSU bred varieties developed fo cool PNW:
--- Legend : It is a parthenocarpic with late blight resistance. --- Siletz : it is an early/mid season vaiety with medium beefsteal tomatoes. --- Willamette : It is a prolific saladett size fruits. ---- Oregon Spring: It is a mid season with gulf ball size fruits. All of the above are determinant. That is the feature I like. In my experience there seems to be no restriction as what I can grow here with a harvest window of two months and longer. But I try to state away from late season varietites as there are plenty of mid season and early varieties available. Gardeneer |
June 1, 2016 | #10 |
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For good tasting early tomatoes that I have grown outside in AK, try Bloody Butcher, Matina, Sasha's Altai, 0-33. Look them up, they are good. For hybrids, go with 4th of July, or Burpee's Early Girl.
I can send some seed of F6's at the end of the season that are early red beefsteaks that are really good if you want some to try. |
June 1, 2016 | #11 | |
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I have had outstanding results last year with Siletz and Gold nugget .....Siletz most definitely had more fruit than plant . I agree with the staying away from the late varieties on the PNW coast ....anything that quotes near `` 80 days `` or more is to much of a chance and very unsatisfying as the cool rains can come to early here dashing all that garden work .
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The early Potato bunch are always dependable ....... Matina in my favourite of this potato bunch ....but it seems to me Stupice is always the first to ripen fruit Bloody butcher is a good one ... Hey in the early Potato bunch don`t forget Glacier ...Kimberly ...I have tried Kotlas as well (but it seems to close to stupice to me) Quedlinburger Frue Lieb , Moravsky Div etc. I Really liked Schelicauski ..it seemed to do very well in container . Visitation Valley as well..... I am growing Unikainyi as well and it seems quite vigourous ....... I also will be trying Russian Apple tree aka Yablonka Rossi The early Potato varieties are most dependable here in my cool coast .. but alas in my area the Legendary Brandywine just seems a bit to much later season requiring more heat degree days ...for me to be satisfied with actual production .
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June 1, 2016 | #13 |
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I bought starts at the grocery store this year as soon as they began arriving because we were so warm so early. I live a couple of hours south of you Black Bear, also on the east side of this island. Nanoose's Incredible Edibles starts a lot of old fashioned varieties as well as those below and distributes them to the grocery stores here.
For what it's worth, these were planted into one gallons Apr. 5th then into their final containers later on. These are the first to fruit. Growing outside covered but not in a greenhouse. My Silvery Fir Tree is still not showing any fruit set but I got it a little later on. Early Girl is setting fruit now. Oregon Spring is just now starting to set fruit. San Fransisco Fog is just a little ahead of Oregon Spring and a large strong looking plant. I grow one Tumbler for my son's summer birthday and was surprised at how well it has tolerated the cold and set fruit. Son will have to get his tomato plant early this year as I think they will be ripening within the next 2 weeks. |
June 1, 2016 | #14 |
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ahhhhh ooooooo
Nanoose ! home of the Madrona/Arbutus and Gary oaks .... If I could have the sub climate that you have ...up north here ... I would ...but will just have to poke along with the cooler spring and early wetter fall ... Very nice for Siletz and others .....Siletz was not the first to fruit for me ...but was oh soo productive . This is the 2nd year in a row Black Prince has been early cool fruit set with Cosmonaut Volkov ....I didn`t even see the Gregori`s flower...and they are loaded with fruit set .... I will stick with these early cool set and watch the others ....
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June 1, 2016 | #15 |
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I have grown Matina, Stupice and Bloody Butcher in 2014.
I did not care for Stupice. Most of the fruits were small. Matina was good but not really Early. Bloody Butcher was the earliest along with Siletz. I prefer Siletz as it has good size fruits, it is determinant and keeps fruiting till the end of season. I had disease problem with Matina. It got Gray mold while Siletz did not. Gardeneer |
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