Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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May 12, 2016 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Alabama
Posts: 2,250
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A customer called today in tears
She purchased a huge number of plants last year and her son diligently saved seed. He grew a bunch of plants for her this year, then a raccoon got into them and destroyed almost all her seedlings.
Why am I mentioning this? Because animals are attracted to seedlings, particularly when organics such as fish emulsion are used as fertilizer. Cats will dig out seedlings, sometimes eat small seedlings, and knock trays off onto the floor. Dogs will dig up transplants, lay on them, run through them, or just scuff them with their feet. Mice will eat small seedlings. Raccoons, squirrels, groundhogs, rats, and other wild animals will destroy your plants. So in the interest of sanity and self-preservation, please consider ways to protect your seedlings from varmints whether domestic or wild. I'm sending replacements for as much as I can, but that does not do much to alleviate the anguish. |
May 12, 2016 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: NC - zone 8a - heat zone 7
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Thanks, Fusion.
I know about rats, squirrels and rabbits. You have to protect seedlings (very young plants ) even against slugs and snail. Gardeneer |
May 12, 2016 | #3 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Finland, EU
Posts: 2,550
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Wow. I'm so thankful I can grow on my balcony, where there are no furry criminals running loose..
At my parents' there are some hares that love to nibble on flowers, but they don't seem to care for tomatoes - although they have occasionally been known to knock some containers down! (no serious damage done to the plant) |
May 12, 2016 | #4 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Ontario
Posts: 3,896
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That is so true. I always think twice about using fish meal or anything else stinky that will attract the wild life (which is plentiful around here). My veggie garden is (flimsily) fenced off, just to keep my dogs out, but that probably wouldn't deter a hungry wild critter.
Linda |
May 12, 2016 | #5 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Alabama
Posts: 2,250
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And.....
I got another call, plants shipped a week ago, wiped out by a hail storm. This guy had 48 seedlings. There is not much you can do about hail storms, maybe cover plants with buckets or something. He was not home anyway. |
May 12, 2016 | #6 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Zone 6 Northern Kentucky
Posts: 1,094
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Birds will do a number on small stuff also.
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May 12, 2016 | #7 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Chapin, SC
Posts: 143
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I left a plastic bottle of fish emulsion on our portico last year. Big paved parking and drive area in front. Nest morning I found the bottle empty with teeth marks all over it.
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May 12, 2016 | #8 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Vancouver Island B.C.
Posts: 116
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Fusion, of the three varieties of bean seed you sent me the two numbered varieties are up and away and looking good, I've got them completely surround in copper mesh, not taking any chances with them. The third, the commercial variety I'm having trouble with, started (8) only one germinated, the Cotyledon opened but it appears to be blind. I just planted 6 more using your method for old seed, we'll see if I have better luck with them this way. I'm growing all in tubs so they can be moved to the greenhouse if they need a longer season. Only growing two plants of each variety this year, don't want to put all my eggs in one basket .
Annette Last edited by aftermidnight; May 12, 2016 at 07:33 PM. Reason: (Sp.) |
May 12, 2016 | #9 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
Posts: 6,794
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I got a scare this spring when I saw the mulch on the garlic beds had been torn apart. Wasn't sure who or after what but was concerned they might dig up the garlic. Fox has been leaving tracks but to my surprise it turned out to be ravens. I mulched with grass clippings instead of kelp this time, and I guess they were after worms, the garlic is coming up fine.
They did however dig up every bit of horesradish I planted and consumed the lot. |
May 12, 2016 | #10 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Den of Drunken Fools
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Come to think about it I had an opened bottle of Alaska fish food come up missing.
I am bad a bout losing stuff and find it in a day or two. This stuff was on the back porch and it is gone. A night critter got it. And I found what was sure to be the worlds record good looking not ugly tomato on the ground after a darn deer ate it. I was the size of a softball or bigger. Worth Last edited by Worth1; May 12, 2016 at 09:27 PM. |
May 12, 2016 | #11 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 6a - NE Tennessee
Posts: 4,538
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Worth, I spent 15 minutes looking for my reading glasses this morning. Finally asked the DW if she had seen them. She laughed and then reached up on top of my head and handed the glasses to me. This kind of stuff is happening too often lately.
I had a small bottle of fish emulsion and it went missing off the shelf out on the patio. Finally saw it disappearing down thru the pasture in front of a possum. Man, they'll eat anything. He came back in two days to ask me for more and poor thing didn't survive the meeting. The turkey buzzards were singing my praises two days later.
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May 12, 2016 | #12 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Birmingham, ALABAMA
Posts: 68
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I've had a couple containers of fish emulsion chewed and somewhat drained over the years.
This spring I left a bag of organic tomato fertilizer outside my garage and it was drained by 1/4. ★★★★★★★ possum didn't use the resealable lock at the top of the bag. At least I didn't leave a fish emulsion chaser.... |
May 12, 2016 | #13 |
BANNED FOR LIFE
Join Date: May 2014
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Fusion, the fact that you are sending replacements is a good thing. The fact that you care is priceless.
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May 13, 2016 | #14 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: WI, USA Zone4
Posts: 1,887
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May 14, 2016 | #15 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: SF Bay Area
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I've reconciled myself to losing something from my garden-to the various critters, every season. On the upside, I have found that gophers do not like fish emulsion-at least in my garden. When there is evidence of a gopher I will put a couple of tablespoons of emulsion in the hole and flush with a little water and they go away. Not 100% effective cuz those gophers are wily critters but I would say 75-80% effective and that's fine for me. I used to lose half my garden to gophers...
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