Which varieties are the stoutest of stout habit ?

[BlackBear]

Hi all ....

this is a general musing over which varieties (probably dwarf ? compact ?)

would have the most stoutely robust ...growth habit ...

the ones that seem to produce a very thick stem ...and look like they are built like a tank ......I guess I would expect these to be rugose leaf ones as well ?

I am looking for the stoutest of the stout robust ones .....(Top 5 ?)

I would appreciate some input on the ones that look the most stout ...with the thickest stem ...in your opinion . I just can't seem to grow them all ...but
I would like to go for the thickest stems ....and figure out the other factors later (like taste LOL ?) within that grouping .........
if I got an anecdotal top 5 ...I could see if I was on the right track.

[Gardeneer]

In my experience dwarfs are stock / stout. Name a few :

New Big Dwarf
Dwarf Purple Heart

They have rugose leaves. I am growing both of them.

Gardeneer

[Cole_Robbie]

I'd say almost every dwarf is going to have a thick stem. A few of them are a little bushier, though, which takes away from the thickness of the central stem.

[NuttyPistons]

For me Cherokee Purple has been a squat, stout grower for a non-dwarf.

[BlackBear]

Yeah ....I am on the right track .... but I was looking for the "stoutest of the stout "

dwarfs/ compact .....the ones with the thickest main stem etc.

again probably the Dwarf / Rugose....

This year I tried Polish Dwarf ....and it looks like quite the candidate for this "Stoutness" pursuit a few others as well ....

I was not meaning the Micro Dwarf ......but larger ones .. I think Roza Vetrov may also be such but ...will see .

[rwsacto]

Dwarf Tasmanian Chocolate has lots of stoutness.

[BlackBear]

ahhhh Tasmanian Chocolate that is another of my to try list ..........

I have tried Yukon Quest , Sleeping lady , Iditarod Red, .....

I have Dwarf purple heart going .....Boronia and Dwarf Arctic Rose etc.

And I have more of the Dwarf Project varieties in Cue for next year etc.


I wonder which of the Dwarf project varieties are the most ..

"stout" with a thick stem habit etc. ??

(what a very unscientific description ...LOL)

I was thinking Betalux and Cyril's Choice ...also had the "Stout " thing going on

I am thinking also Kootenai ..perhaps ...possibly Sandpoint ??

[BlackBear]

Again most of these are Rugose leaf types ...

Does anybody know of a Potato Leaf type that has the Dwarf Stout thing with the thick main stem etc. ?

[Jframe38]

Texas wild tomato will be a stout one it will ramble along the ground like a quasi ground cover If you will

It re seeds readily and it's almost weed like here in Kansas in my garden it gives you hundreds of small sweet cherry tomatoes it sets earlier then any other and Seems way more disease resistant then your average store bought plant


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[retiree]

Dwarf Champion-my late father's favourite

[Scooty]

Originally Posted by Jframe38

Texas wild tomato will be a stout one it will ramble along the ground like a quasi ground cover If you will

It re seeds readily and it's almost weed like here in Kansas in my garden it gives you hundreds of small sweet cherry tomatoes it sets earlier then any other and Seems way more disease resistant then your average store bought plant


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Is it anything like Matt's Wild Cherry?

[BlackBear]

I have tried one Plant this year of Dwarf Champion also ....perhaps some of these Venerable old varieties need to be respected more .

[Jframe38]

Yes. I'm thinking mats wild cherry is the same maybe you can say Texas wild has larger fruit they are all strains of Solanum pimpinellifolium.





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[BlackBear]

I am thinking Mano is an honorable mention as well as Extreme bush ???

But they are not the absolute stoutest ...with the thickest Main stem habit .......

[Gardeneer]

I was at HD today. There was some "Bush Champions".
It can fit the category of DWARF. It was stocky and had rugose leaves.

Gardeneer