Determinate potato leaf variety

[StrongPlant]

Do determinate potato-leaf varieties exist? I've never seen one.I've read about how because of gene linkage you can't make a determinate plant that has peach fruits(or something like that,I don't remember).If there are any,I'd like to know the names of any you can think of.Thanks!

[NarnianGarden]

Black Sea man comes to mind. Tatiana's tomatobase lists it as determinate, although it might be a compact indet .. Chernomor (whic is supposed to be the same) is described as indet.
http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Black_Sea_Man

But I am a bit confused with your rerefence to peach fruits - is that what you're seeking? Black seaman is dark, and very tasty..

I am sure there are more.. others will likely remember their names and chime in.

[StrongPlant]

Originally Posted by NarnianGarden

Black Sea man comes to mind. Tatiana's tomatobase lists it as determinate, although it might be a compact indet .. Chernomor (whic is supposed to be the same) is described as indet.
http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Black_Sea_Man

But I am a bit confused with your rerefence to peach fruits - is that what you're seeking? Black seaman is dark, and very tasty..

I am sure there are more.. others will likely remember their names and chime in.

The main thing I wanted to know if any even exist,and now you've confirmed they indeed do.Thanks for that now for the names,I'm sure there's a ton of them,I'm hoping for more input from more people.About the peach thing-apparently it's impossible to obtain a determinate plant that has fuzzy fruits,because the gene(s) for indeterminate growth habit and fuzzy fruit are linked too closely to separate them.Again-I think that's what I read,I might have mixed up something,and if so I apologize for misinformation.That's why I thought it's the same case with potato leaf determinates,because I never saw one.

[NarnianGarden]

Wrong! Fuzzy (peach-like) fruited determinates exist, I am just growing one on my balcony: Fuzzy Wuzzy. A very beautiful, vigorous, but compact plant. Very handy if you are seeking something that doesn't need staking.
It's setting fruit already, and I'm curious about the taste, which is supposed to be good..

[BigVanVader]

I am growing it and I think it taste good. Not amazing but decent. I enjoy how it takes up virtually no space.

[StrongPlant]

Originally Posted by NarnianGarden

Wrong! Fuzzy (peach-like) fruited determinates exist, I am just growing one on my balcony: Fuzzy Wuzzy. A very beautiful, vigorous, but compact plant. Very handy if you are seeking something that doesn't need staking.
It's setting fruit already, and I'm curious about the taste, which is supposed to be good..

Really? Does the fruit have fine hairs over it? And the plant is fully determinate? Maybe it's a completely different gene than one I was reading about,causing the same trait.Do you have any pictures of the fruit? I'm getting a little off-topic,but it's very interesting,to me at least.

[Ricky Shaw]

Apple Tree

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/wiki/Apple_Tree

[NarnianGarden]

StrongPlant, here's the best info page I could find about FW:

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Fuzzy_Wuzzy

Plenty of pictures to show various stages.
I can testify that the plant is very hairy, including the little fruits - I keep joking that I keep a furry friend on my balcony.. it is that fuzzy. What fun to see the vast diversity of tomato genetic pool!

[BigVanVader]

Originally Posted by StrongPlant

Really? Does the fruit have fine hairs over it? And the plant is fully determinate? Maybe it's a completely different gene than one I was reading about,causing the same trait.Do you have any pictures of the fruit? I'm getting a little off-topic,but it's very interesting,to me at least.

Yep, here is a close up of the fruit. Fine hair is noticable.

[Ricky Shaw]

Outdoor Girl

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Outdoor_Girl

[StrongPlant]

Any more varieties with these specific traits? It looks like I will be able to find seeds of 'Black sea man' in my area,which is awesome.Any more varieties you guys can think of are welcome,and aditional info on Black sea man(disease-resistance,yield,growth speed,days to maturity) would be cool too.Personal experience with it is preferred over online info,however.

[kath]

[QUOTE=StrongPlant;580349]Any more varieties with these specific traits? [QUOTE]

Not personal experience, but if you have the time you could go to Tatiana's Tomatobase and cross-reference her lists of Deterinate Varieties and Potato-Leaved Varieties.

kath

[StrongPlant]

Originally Posted by kath

Not personal experience, but if you have the time you could go to Tatiana's Tomatobase and cross-reference her lists of Deterinate Varieties and Potato-Leaved Varieties.

kath

Thanks,I've found 3 more in her base.The compiled list is:

Clario Purple
Glacier
Karos
Apple Tree
Black sea man
Outdoor girl

Doesn't seem to be many such varieties,that's probably the reason I've never seen them before.Not surprising though,since both determinate and potato-leaf are recessive traits,but that's exactly why I want them.I've heard that Black sea man has "green shoulder" trait,which is awesome,I've read that tomatoes with it taste better.

[PNW_D]

One more from Tania's - Shtambovyi Kartofelnolistnyi 1648

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w...b=General_Info

[StrongPlant]

Originally Posted by PNW_D

One more from Tania's - Shtambovyi Kartofelnolistnyi 1648

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w...b=General_Info

Thanks,but I am mostly looking for non-dwarf types,so I left out such ones.