Tomato species/variety ID

[StrongPlant]

Is this the real S.pimpinellifolium? From pictures I saw it doesn't quite look like it,but the entire plant is hairless,the fruits are tiny,as well as the leaves.Stems are thin,and suckers grow like crazy.

[carolyn137]

Solanum pimpinellifolium are also called currant tomatoes,there's but ONE species,and I've grown them several times.

They do have what are called exerted stigma's so may be crossed if not geographically isolated,but the latest on that is a very astute tomato person named Keith Mueller,says he's more worried about his regular tomatoes being xed by the pimps.

I grew them on the other side of my home from my regular tomatoes,no problems.

Here's a link with lots of links,and pictures, and also the fact that is was probably pimps that were the first to go from S America to Mexico to the US,which is important.

https://www.google.com/#q=Solanum+pi...lifolium&hl=en

Carolyn

[StrongPlant]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

Solanum pimpinellifolium are also called currant tomatoes,there's but ONE species,and I've grown them several times.

They do have what are called exerted stigma's so may be crossed if not geographically isolated,but the latest on that is a very astute tomato person named Keith Mueller,says he's more worried about his regular tomatoes being xed by the pimps.

I grew them on the other side of my home from my regular tomatoes,no problems.

Here's a link with lots of links,and pictures, and also the fact that is was probably pimps that were the first to go from S America to Mexico to the US,which is important.

https://www.google.com/#q=Solanum+pi...lifolium&hl=en

Carolyn

Thanks.Curiously,this one does not have exerted stigmas,so self pollinates quite easily.Even if it's not 100% S.pimpinellifolium it seems to share a lot of traits with it.What's even more interesting is that F1s where this one is one of the parents actually have exerted stigmas,but not on all flowers,only on about 50% of them.The F1s also look a lot more like this one than the other parent suggesting this plant has a lot of dominant genes.

[ginger2778]

I grew Everglades for the seeds this past season. Yours looks a great deal like it.

Carolyn, I love calling them pimps.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by ginger2778

I grew Everglades for the seeds this past season. Yours looks a great deal like it.

Carolyn, I love calling them pimps.

I grew Everglades years ago when that idiot,pardon me,was offering seeds online for a ridiculous amount of money.Some one bought a lot and distributed them to others. This at a time when I didn't know that the swaps of FL were filled with same,initially introduced from Mexico by Catholic priests and distributed along the Gulf Coast to FL.

However,my fave current currant one is

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com:88/w...s_Pink_Currant

The only pink Currant know now although there was another one that Tim at Peter's Seed and research was offering, that he had bred, before he was run out of business.

The story behind this pink one is interesting,at least to me,and this all developed when many of us were still at Dave's Garden.

Ted (Darnowski) is not a young man,he sent one of his daughters to a nursery to buy him a couple of plants of Everglades.When they ripened up one had beautiful pink fruits of the same size,etc.

I asked Ted if he could save some seeds for me,he said he didn't know how to do that.So I asked him if he could send me some fruits and double bag them so if they got crushed in transit they wouldn't leak all over the place.

When they came they were all crushed,so I simply set up some fermentations and got loads of seeds to SSE list and list for seed offers. I just checked my 2016 SSE Yearbook and it's still being listed,not by me,but by Nancy Ruhl,who is a TV member and she had hers from Ted as well.

Well yes,I think rather than spelling out Pimpinellifolium it's much better to refer to them as pimps, regardless of other interpretations of the word pimp.

Carolyn