Super sweet 100 vs. peacevine

uno · February 22, 2007

I have read where peacevine is a dehybridized super sweet 100.

I already grow super sweet 100's and I think they are a good cherry tomato except for the cracking!

Just wondering if there is any real differences between the two?

I was going to try out peacevine but if it's pretty much idenical to super sweet 100 then I'll just grow supersweet 100's....or peacevine!

Jim

**Mischka** · February 22, 2007

I've grown both and have come to the solid conclusion that Super Sweet 100 tastes much better...on my palate, anyway. :wink:

**carolyn137** · February 22, 2007

Actually Peacevine is a dehybridized Sweet 100, not the Supersweet one, and it was done by Alan Kapuler many years ago.

I'd think more highly of Peacevine if they didn't have that ridiculous claim that it has high levels of gamma butyric acid which "they" say can calm the nerves and more.

I've not grown the OP Sweet 100, which was first, nor the hybrid Sweet 100 nor the hybrid SuperSweet 100 , and don't intend to,

, so I'm no help at all in saying which one I might prefer.

Just adding a bit more data about that family of red cherries.

cdntomato · February 22, 2007

Peacevine is a selection from Sweet 100 F1 done by Alan Kapuler (of Peace seeds and formerly director of breeding/plant development or = at Seeds of Change). Alan's schtick seems to be to select or develop for nutrition (see also Broccoli Nutribud, etc).

Super Sweet 100 F1 was developed from the original Sweet 100 F1 as well, supposedly with less cracking and more disease tolerance. I've heard ditto for Sweet Million F1.

For 3 years running I've grown at least 6 plants each of Super Sweet 100 F1, Sweet 100 F1, Sweet 100 OP, Peacevine, Rideau Sweet (another Sweet 100 F1 selection, this time by Ken Allan), Portland Sweet (ditto), Sweet Million F1, Sweet Million OP.

Peacevine has a distinct taste when compared with the others. Perhaps it's a love or hate thing like Green Zebra.

My faves are Sweet Million OP (a selection of Sweet Million F1, and NOT identical to the hybrid despite the claims of Dave Ackerman from Upper Canada Seeds that seeds saved from Sweet Million F1 breed true--yeeaschka

) and Rideau Sweet and well, Peacevine. My preferences are based on taste, lack of cracking, and general plant growth/health. Prolific comes with the cherry territory.

Jennifer, who also grew out Sweet Chelsea F1 and Chelsea Gem OP (which is identical to the hybrid and VERY good)

cdntomato · February 22, 2007

Oops, guess I am a sloooowww typist.

Jennifer

uno · February 22, 2007

Thanks Mishka Carolyn and Jennifer

I sort of know what Caroln is talking about with the GABA claim. I remember hearing about how it's the trypophan in turkey that makes you tired after a thanksgiving meal. Meanwhile the potatoes contain more tryptophan than the turkey...it's the huge amout of food that is eaten that makes you tired!

Taking about nutrients in tomatoes maybe Carolyn knows the answer to this one. Is sweet 100 one of the highest in vitamic C? I have seen it listed that way a lot.

Also wondering where you can get the sweet million open pollinated seeds?

I really liked the super sweet 100's I grew last year from totally tomatoes. They grew much bigger and stronger plants than all of my other cherries except for maybe sungold...it was about a tie with them.

My big problem with the sweet 100's was the cracking. I had so many split that it gets to be a pain.

I know the sweet million is suposed to have better crack resistance and that would be a huge benifit I think and if they taste better too....I definitely want to grow them!

Jim

cdntomato · February 22, 2007

Jim, PM me about the OPs.

Jennifer

February 22, 2007	#1
uno Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: SW Pennsylvania, zone 6a Posts: 147	Super sweet 100 vs. peacevine I have read where peacevine is a dehybridized super sweet 100. I already grow super sweet 100's and I think they are a good cherry tomato except for the cracking! Just wondering if there is any real differences between the two? I was going to try out peacevine but if it's pretty much idenical to super sweet 100 then I'll just grow supersweet 100's....or peacevine! Jim

February 22, 2007	#2
Mischka Tomatoville® Administrator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Bay State Posts: 3,207	I've grown both and have come to the solid conclusion that Super Sweet 100 tastes much better...on my palate, anyway. :wink: __________________ Mischka One last word of farewell, Dear Master and Mistress. Whenever you visit my grave, say to yourselves with regret but also with happiness in your hearts at the remembrance of my long happy life with you: "Here lies one who loved us and whom we loved." No matter how deep my sleep I shall hear you, and not all the power of death can keep my spirit from wagging a grateful tail.

February 22, 2007	#3
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	Actually Peacevine is a dehybridized Sweet 100, not the Supersweet one, and it was done by Alan Kapuler many years ago. I'd think more highly of Peacevine if they didn't have that ridiculous claim that it has high levels of gamma butyric acid which "they" say can calm the nerves and more. I've not grown the OP Sweet 100, which was first, nor the hybrid Sweet 100 nor the hybrid SuperSweet 100 , and don't intend to, , so I'm no help at all in saying which one I might prefer. Just adding a bit more data about that family of red cherries. __________________ Carolyn

February 22, 2007	#4
cdntomato Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Kingston, Ontario Posts: 554	Peacevine is a selection from Sweet 100 F1 done by Alan Kapuler (of Peace seeds and formerly director of breeding/plant development or = at Seeds of Change). Alan's schtick seems to be to select or develop for nutrition (see also Broccoli Nutribud, etc). Super Sweet 100 F1 was developed from the original Sweet 100 F1 as well, supposedly with less cracking and more disease tolerance. I've heard ditto for Sweet Million F1. For 3 years running I've grown at least 6 plants each of Super Sweet 100 F1, Sweet 100 F1, Sweet 100 OP, Peacevine, Rideau Sweet (another Sweet 100 F1 selection, this time by Ken Allan), Portland Sweet (ditto), Sweet Million F1, Sweet Million OP. Peacevine has a distinct taste when compared with the others. Perhaps it's a love or hate thing like Green Zebra. My faves are Sweet Million OP (a selection of Sweet Million F1, and NOT identical to the hybrid despite the claims of Dave Ackerman from Upper Canada Seeds that seeds saved from Sweet Million F1 breed true--yeeaschka ) and Rideau Sweet and well, Peacevine. My preferences are based on taste, lack of cracking, and general plant growth/health. Prolific comes with the cherry territory. Jennifer, who also grew out Sweet Chelsea F1 and Chelsea Gem OP (which is identical to the hybrid and VERY good)