Green Charlie

[NarnianGarden]

Are there experiences with Charlie's Green? It seems it's not one of the most popular GWR ones, at least based on the thread I have seen here (but I might be wrong).
I came across this one at a German seed vendor site, and since I purchased some other varieties, this one jumped onto the shopping cart as well..
It sure looks pretty, slightly different than other GWR varieties.
Just interesting that this not-so-well-known variety ended up on an European seed site.

Are there any specifific tidbits of information about this? Tatiana's tomatobase doesn't give too much background info.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by NarnianGarden

Are there experiences with Charlie's Green? It seems it's not one of the most popular GWR ones, at least based on the thread I have seen here (but I might be wrong).
I came across this one at a German seed vendor site, and since I purchased some other varieties, this one jumped onto the shopping cart as well..
It sure looks pretty, slightly different than other GWR varieties.
Just interesting that this not-so-well-known variety ended up on an European seed site.

Are there any specifific tidbits of information about this? Tatiana's tomatobase doesn't give too much background info.

Yes,I've grown it,seeds purchased several decades ago from the original Gleckler family who had no website back then,but sent out small paper catalogs each year. Same place I got Grandma Oliver's Green and several more.

Is it the best GWRIpe I've ever grown?No,but it's very good and no different in coloration from the many GWRipes I've grown,which by now must be close to maybe 50 or so..

I just checked my 2016 SSE Yearbook and it's still being listed and the origin is given as from George Darby of Petersburg,KY in 1992.

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/C...b=General_Info

I had already fetched Tania's page for it before reading that you said she didn't have much to say, so just linked to it above so as to clear my cut and pastes.

Carolyn

[NarnianGarden]

Thanks Carolyn, I hoped you'd say something What is ncie is that it's regular leaf and no potato leaf; so far I all the PL greens I have grown have been quick to catch mold and other diseases (very delicious though)..

I'll try to find a spot for it next year - so many lovely varieties, too little space.. and I can't too much impose my passion on my mom, she values her gardening space and likes to grow other things as well as tomatoes..

(Me: What's the point of growing roses and other flowers, they're not edible!
Mom: True, but esthetics and eye candy are important too!)

[Scooty]

Originally Posted by NarnianGarden

Thanks Carolyn, I hoped you'd say something What is ncie is that it's regular leaf and no potato leaf; so far I all the PL greens I have grown have been quick to catch mold and other diseases (very delicious though)..

I'll try to find a spot for it next year - so many lovely varieties, too little space.. and I can't too much impose my passion on my mom, she values her gardening space and likes to grow other things as well as tomatoes..

(Me: What's the point of growing roses and other flowers, they're not edible!
Mom: True, but esthetics and eye candy are important too!)

Have you tried Esmeralda Golosina? PL GWR, it's doing very well here, no foliage issues. Quite sweet.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by NarnianGarden

Thanks Carolyn, I hoped you'd say something What is ncie is that it's regular leaf and no potato leaf; so far I all the PL greens I have grown have been quick to catch mold and other diseases (very delicious though)..

I'll try to find a spot for it next year - so many lovely varieties, too little space.. and I can't too much impose my passion on my mom, she values her gardening space and likes to grow other things as well as tomatoes..

(Me: What's the point of growing roses and other flowers, they're not edible!
Mom: True, but esthetics and eye candy are important too!)

Offhand I can't think of many PL GWRipes I've grown, and growing a PL GWR should be the same as growing any PL, and while some do say they get more leaf diseases with PL varieties in general,that certainly hasn't been true for me or many others that I know.

In fact there reverse is true for me and many others b/c when the RL's are down and out near the end of the summer,due to foliage diseases,the PL's are still going strong.

I've suggested that it might be due to PL's having a thicker upper leaf epidermis,but I can't prove that scientifically,I just know what I observe.

Carolyn

[NarnianGarden]

Originally Posted by Scooty

Have you tried Esmeralda Golosina? PL GWR, it's doing very well here, no foliage issues. Quite sweet.

Yes, and like it a lot: very sweet, almost like a tropical fruit. One of the few varieties that haven't been a letdown this rainy summer. Not too much gray mold yet, but it's spreading.

I was surprised to see all the moldy diseases spread so fast and PL ones have been hit the hardest. sadly, the same happened last year with Grub's Mystery green, so I won't grow it any more...

It seems whatever good vives and bad vibes PL varieties have, they somehow get evened out +/– ...

[Scooty]

Originally Posted by NarnianGarden

Yes, and like it a lot: very sweet, almost like a tropical fruit. One of the few varieties that haven't been a letdown this rainy summer. Not too much gray mold yet, but it's spreading.

I was surprised to see all the moldy diseases spread so fast and PL ones have been hit the hardest. sadly, the same happened last year with Grub's Mystery green, so I won't grow it any more...

It seems whatever good vives and bad vibes PL varieties have, they somehow get evened out +/– ...

Do you spray at all? Conventional? Organic only?

[NarnianGarden]

Yes this is the first year I have sprayed, and there has been some talk here about various concoctions.. I have done the aspirin spray, epsom salt spray and a bio-fungicide spray...
Will probably repeat the bio fungicide.

[Scooty]

There's something called mycostop that seems to be popular here with a lot of greenhouse tomato growers.

[imp]

Originally Posted by NarnianGarden

Thanks Carolyn, I hoped you'd say something What is ncie is that it's regular leaf and no potato leaf; so far I all the PL greens I have grown have been quick to catch mold and other diseases (very delicious though)..

I'll try to find a spot for it next year - so many lovely varieties, too little space.. and I can't too much impose my passion on my mom, she values her gardening space and likes to grow other things as well as tomatoes..

(Me: What's the point of growing roses and other flowers, they're not edible!
Mom: True, but esthetics and eye candy are important too!)

Ummm, many flowers are edible and lovely in salads, garnishes and of coursse, sweets. And rose- not only good for salads or top garnish a soup, but jellies and confections, scent and just because ( I agree with your Mom) they are beautiful.

[NarnianGarden]

Of course, I know That's just the kind of joking I do with my Mom.
Although she doesn't favor too many edible flowers... I wish. Roses definitely are gorgeous, as are peonies and lilies.. and pansies, and and..