Getting Started 2017

AlittleSalt · December 10, 2016

For some of us down south, pepper seed starting time is soon to be here (Around January 1) For others up north - you all probably have a couple months to collect seeds and get ready.

We got started much earlier by buying, trading, the MMMM, ones from Worth and Star, and seed saving over the past three years. I didn't realize just how many varieties I/we have collected.

Before asking my wife to help me narrow down the list of ones we want to grow - I removed the ornamental varieties that we grew last year. Some of those came from seeds purchased back in 2007. Then I removed the varieties that didn't germinate or grew/produced poorly, and the ones that are hotter than what we want to grow. Ornamentals will be grown in flower beds and they're not on this list.

We talked over what pepper types we want to grow, and she chose through a pile of seed packs. She helped narrow the varieties down ...to 24

This is a tentative list that most likely will change after our MMMM mailer gets here. And I just remembered there are some more to look through.

Bell
Enjoya
Keystone Giant
Margaret's Bell
Pinot Noir (2 seeds)

Paprika
NuMex Garnet
Leutschauer

Chili Relleno Types
Anaheim
New Mexico Improved
NuMex Heritage 6-4
Sandia - maybe too hot?

Jalapenos
Fooled You
Jalamundo
Jumbo

Hot Favorites
Cayenne Long Slim Red
Serrano
Tabasco

Not Hot
Cubanelle
Jimmy Nardello
Padron
Red Sweet Cherry
Shish!to
Sweet Banana
Sweet Cayenne
Topepo Rosso

Worth1 · December 10, 2016

Salt I haven't even thought about it this year and my not do a darn thing.
For some reason I just dont feel like it.

KarenO · December 10, 2016

Great list Robert. You and your wife seem to have similar tastes to ours, just a bit of heat and lots of flavour.
You will enjoy the paprikas I think.
Happy growing!
KarenO

greenthumbomaha · December 10, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worth1

Salt I haven't even thought about it this year and my not do a darn thing.
For some reason I just dont feel like it.

I and many others think of you as the pepper guru. With your new job, starting plants right now might seem more like work than fun. When it gets hot your gonna miss not having plants. I did this one year and started late, too late to get much in my climate. If you get the hankering, is there a farmers market where you can pick up a few interesting transplants? Another option would be to see what the online sellers on the forum are offering, or maybe someone from the forum that lives nearby can get some started for you. Something different and new to look forward too as well.

- Lisa

greenthumbomaha · December 10, 2016

Robert, are you going to start eggplant? I start them with peppers and let them grow large for plant out.

- Lisa

Worth1 · December 10, 2016

Me being home I can keep the ones I have alive if I want to they are still producing.
And no where close to being too late to start seed down here for peppers.

AlittleSalt · December 10, 2016

Lisa, thank you for reminding me about eggplants.

Last year, I started some peppers and tomatoes on January 17th - they did fine. There's just something about starting them on January 1. It's new year and a new garden...although I started onions and elephant garlic a couple months ago.

Worth1 · December 10, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenthumbomaha

I and many others think of you as the pepper guru.
- Lisa

I had no idea nor do I consider myself a guru on anything including peppers.
Many here are much better than I.
But thanks.

Worth

greenthumbomaha · December 11, 2016

Well, okay pepper sauce guru then. But you have to start that sauce from somewhere.

I finally found a commercial sauce that is low enough in sodium that I can eat and cheap enough to risk trying. Its a Taco Bell red sauce. Not much flavor besides vinegar and a faint ketchup undertone but at $1.29 a bottle it is a treat. I haven't had any commercial salsa or taco sauce in 8+ years. My growing partner warned me that the non-bell peppers I planted were too hot for even himself and his family that likes spicy food.

- Lisa

dmforcier · December 13, 2016

Saltie, please allow me to make some suggestions:

Paprika
Apple Pimento, if you can find it. Large thick, low-heat pods.

Chille Relleno
Poblano, any of several varieties.
(Cubanelle is a good stuffer too)

Hots
Scotch Bonnet, MoA (Jamaican Ministry of Ag)

Not Hots
Gourmet Seasoning
Trinidad Perfume

I can send you some of these if you can't find them.

pmcgrady · December 14, 2016

Enjoya pepper, I just received some in a swap and read up on it... One article says it was a mutant discovered in a garden, other says the peppers come from grafted plants. There was a discussion on here, but no one growing them out really said how or what color they came out. I read another article that said they ended up being yellow.

AlittleSalt · December 21, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlittleSalt

This is a tentative list that most likely will change after our MMMM mailer gets here. And I just remembered there are some more to look through.

Bell
Enjoya
Keystone Giant
Margaret's Bell
Pinot Noir (2 seeds)

Paprika
NuMex Garnet
Leutschauer

Chili Relleno Types
Anaheim
New Mexico Improved
NuMex Heritage 6-4
Sandia - maybe too hot?

Jalapenos
Fooled You
Jalamundo
Jumbo

Hot Favorites
Cayenne Long Slim Red
Serrano
Tabasco

Not Hot
Cubanelle
Jimmy Nardello
Padron
Red Sweet Cherry
Shish!to
Sweet Banana
Sweet Cayenne
Topepo Rosso

We just opened the MMMM mailer and yeah, the list is changing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sk5aeUoOjw

Tracydr · December 21, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlittleSalt

Lisa, thank you for reminding me about eggplants.

Last year, I started some peppers and tomatoes on January 17th - they did fine. There's just something about starting them on January 1. It's new year and a new garden...although I started onions and elephant garlic a couple months ago.

That's my goal to start them,too. Doing lots of super hots this year,tripling the peppers and decreasing the tomatoes next year.

dmforcier · December 21, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlittleSalt

We just opened the MMMM mailer and yeah, the list is changing.

Good tune!

So what did ya get??

AlittleSalt · December 22, 2016

DM, There are some I've been wanting to try. Some I have no clue about other than what is read online. Some I'm interested in because my extended family wants to try something different and not so hot.

Ever heard of a cheese pepper? A friend is mailing 3 different ones to go with the two we got today. I'll grow all 5 varieties.

There are mini bells - chocolate, orange, and red.

Penot Noir F1 seeds. #$% they are good.

Purple and Jalapeno Grande will find a few spots in the garden.

Some Alma Paprika has to make the list.

I wonder if Chili de Arbol is as good as Cayenne?

And so many more to research in the next few weeks. It's starting to look like I'll be planting at least one 72 cell tray of peppers.

December 10, 2016	#1
AlittleSalt BANNED FOR LIFE Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 13,333	Getting Started 2017 For some of us down south, pepper seed starting time is soon to be here (Around January 1) For others up north - you all probably have a couple months to collect seeds and get ready. We got started much earlier by buying, trading, the MMMM, ones from Worth and Star, and seed saving over the past three years. I didn't realize just how many varieties I/we have collected. Before asking my wife to help me narrow down the list of ones we want to grow - I removed the ornamental varieties that we grew last year. Some of those came from seeds purchased back in 2007. Then I removed the varieties that didn't germinate or grew/produced poorly, and the ones that are hotter than what we want to grow. Ornamentals will be grown in flower beds and they're not on this list. We talked over what pepper types we want to grow, and she chose through a pile of seed packs. She helped narrow the varieties down ...to 24 This is a tentative list that most likely will change after our MMMM mailer gets here. And I just remembered there are some more to look through. Bell Enjoya Keystone Giant Margaret's Bell Pinot Noir (2 seeds) Paprika NuMex Garnet Leutschauer Chili Relleno Types Anaheim New Mexico Improved NuMex Heritage 6-4 Sandia - maybe too hot? Jalapenos Fooled You Jalamundo Jumbo Hot Favorites Cayenne Long Slim Red Serrano Tabasco Not Hot Cubanelle Jimmy Nardello Padron Red Sweet Cherry Shish!to Sweet Banana Sweet Cayenne Topepo Rosso

December 13, 2016	#10
dmforcier Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,825	Saltie, please allow me to make some suggestions: Paprika Apple Pimento, if you can find it. Large thick, low-heat pods. Chille Relleno Poblano, any of several varieties. (Cubanelle is a good stuffer too) Hots Scotch Bonnet, MoA (Jamaican Ministry of Ag) Not Hots Gourmet Seasoning Trinidad Perfume I can send you some of these if you can't find them. __________________ Stupidity got us into this mess. Why can't it get us out? - Will Rogers

December 10, 2016	#2
Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	Salt I haven't even thought about it this year and my not do a darn thing. For some reason I just dont feel like it.

December 10, 2016	#3
KarenO Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 5,932	Great list Robert. You and your wife seem to have similar tastes to ours, just a bit of heat and lots of flavour. You will enjoy the paprikas I think. Happy growing! KarenO

December 10, 2016	#5
greenthumbomaha Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Omaha Zone 5 Posts: 2,514	Robert, are you going to start eggplant? I start them with peppers and let them grow large for plant out. - Lisa

December 11, 2016	#9
greenthumbomaha Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Omaha Zone 5 Posts: 2,514	Well, okay pepper sauce guru then. But you have to start that sauce from somewhere. I finally found a commercial sauce that is low enough in sodium that I can eat and cheap enough to risk trying. Its a Taco Bell red sauce. Not much flavor besides vinegar and a faint ketchup undertone but at $1.29 a bottle it is a treat. I haven't had any commercial salsa or taco sauce in 8+ years. My growing partner warned me that the non-bell peppers I planted were too hot for even himself and his family that likes spicy food. - Lisa

December 14, 2016	#11
pmcgrady Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Central Illinois Posts: 1,836	Enjoya pepper, I just received some in a swap and read up on it... One article says it was a mutant discovered in a garden, other says the peppers come from grafted plants. There was a discussion on here, but no one growing them out really said how or what color they came out. I read another article that said they ended up being yellow.

December 22, 2016	#15
AlittleSalt BANNED FOR LIFE Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 13,333	DM, There are some I've been wanting to try. Some I have no clue about other than what is read online. Some I'm interested in because my extended family wants to try something different and not so hot. Ever heard of a cheese pepper? A friend is mailing 3 different ones to go with the two we got today. I'll grow all 5 varieties. There are mini bells - chocolate, orange, and red. Penot Noir F1 seeds. #$% they are good. Purple and Jalapeno Grande will find a few spots in the garden. Some Alma Paprika has to make the list. I wonder if Chili de Arbol is as good as Cayenne? And so many more to research in the next few weeks. It's starting to look like I'll be planting at least one 72 cell tray of peppers.