Decision time...

spyfferoni · February 28, 2007

Oh man! How am I going to decide what to plant. I thought I was going to try mostly early types this year, but I have several yellow and gold types I want to try as well as many black types, and some paste types as well, and some pink varieties.

Here is what I am thinking:
Polish and 2 other big pink types
Kimberly, Early Goliath, Silvery Fir Tree and 2 other early types
2-3 paste types
Coustrolee, Box Car Willie, Big Beef, and Goliath for the reds
Yellow Bell and Azoychka for yellows
Juane Flamee and Kellogs Breakfast for golden/orange
Kosovo and another heart type
Carbon, Cherokee Purple or Chocolate, and Noir de Crimee for blacks
Galinas and Black Cherry---and maybe Sun Gold and Pink Ping Pong.
I can grow a couple at my Mom's apartment in containers. I'm thinking Lime Green Salad, and New Big Dwarf for her, and I have a couple of neighbors that I can give some tomato plants to.
I really don't have space for more than 25 plants, maybe 30 if I plant some in the front yard. This is insane!!! I have about 80 varieties of seeds and I want to plant them all...I still want to plant peppers, beans, cucumbers, peas, squash, and maybe a couple of melons too.
How does my list look. It it well rounded enough to give me a good sampling of tomatoes?

Tyffanie

**Lee** · February 28, 2007

As long as you've got Cuostralee in there.... I'm happy!

Lee

Tomstrees · February 28, 2007

looks good to me !

~ Tom

MawkHawk · February 28, 2007

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It it well rounded enough to give me a good sampling of tomatoes?

Yeah, except for Azoychka, IMHO. I've grown it twice and had poor results both times, very small plants, few fruits, disease-prone, so-so taste. I think any other yellow would be better, even Lemon Boy.

spyfferoni · February 28, 2007

Any other opinions on Azoychka? I think I have some Taxi seeds I could replace it with. I also have Limmony. I have a son who will only eat yellow and orange tomatoes---I'm sure its all in his head. He'll munch on Galinas or SunGold but won't touch any other tomatoes. I want to see if he'll eat other kinds of yellow tomatoes.

Thanks again!

Tyffanie

montanamato · February 28, 2007

Tyffanie...I am not in the Azoychka fan club either...The plants were nice and productive, but the fruit was hard and tart...It had no balance like a tart red does and tasted strange to me...I think I am in the minority on this one though, as it gets a lot of praise from others...I have concluded, I like my yellows to taste like yellows, and I favor the milder ones...Have you tried Dakota Gold ? It is super for droughty, short seasons. I would send you seed , but I only have a few to grow this year. Sand Hill carries it, but it may be unavailable this year...If growing for a child, I would go with a smaller yellow...

Jeanne

strax · February 28, 2007

Azoychka was one of my favorites for flavor.

jake

pooklette · February 28, 2007

In my garden, Azoychka was early-ish and productive. I considered the flavor pretty average. It was not overly mild and definitely wasn't fruity/sweet...in my garden anyway. I wasn't really bowled over by Azoychka but I would grow it again.

where_with_all · March 1, 2007

I thought Azoychka was one of my best tasting tomatoes last year. It was early productive and good citrus taste. Not tart. I would keep it

Fusion_power · March 1, 2007

One possible cause of the 'all over the map' responses about Azoychka is that much of the commercially available seed is NOT of the true Azoychka. The correct description should be a small to medium sized tomato never larger than a tennis ball with a nice yellow color. It ripens early in the 65 to 70 day range from transplant. Flavor is good to very good for its early maturity. In a head to head comparison with Kellogg's breakfast, KB will consistently rank 8.5 and Azoychka about 7.5 or a tad better. The key is that Azoychka ripens about 10 days before the earliest KB.

Fusion

Ruth_10 · March 1, 2007

Was the Azoychka freebie from TGS in 2005 the real deal? I grew it in 2005, but didn't write down what the size was.

My sort of fuzzy memory is that it wasn't tennis ball sized, but I could be wrong there.

Suze · March 2, 2007

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Originally Posted by Ruth_10

Was the Azoychka freebie from TGS in 2005 the real deal?

Yes, it was. I think that was when I started growing it -- from the freebie.

i like it. It's no 9 or 10 for flavor, but is very good for an early.

Fusion_power · March 2, 2007

I should have done a better job of describing Azoychka. It is a flattened beefsteak variety that has typically been about the size of a tennis ball with some fruit larger. Its outstanding trait is early maturity. The seed that Tomato Growers Supply has is the correct one. At one time about 4 years ago, they were selling the incorrect and oversized late maturing variety.

Fusion

PNW_D · March 2, 2007

Well, Azoychka has been on and off my grow list a number of times now

Anyone grown both this one and Tasmanian Yellow (not the Blushing)? Any preference?

TIA

Andrey_BY · March 2, 2007

That Russian variety you called Azoychka has at least 25 year history in former Soviet Union gardens under 2 names: Azochka (a kind of Russian female name Aza) aka Zolotoy Barago. We just love this amateurish tomato variety, cause we are more into citrus/tart flavor (or sweet/tart).
Even 15 years ago around the time it had been introduced to USA Azochka was among not so many well-known Russian tomato varieties with non-red fruits...

February 28, 2007	#1
spyfferoni Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 675	Decision time... Oh man! How am I going to decide what to plant. I thought I was going to try mostly early types this year, but I have several yellow and gold types I want to try as well as many black types, and some paste types as well, and some pink varieties. Here is what I am thinking: Polish and 2 other big pink types Kimberly, Early Goliath, Silvery Fir Tree and 2 other early types 2-3 paste types Coustrolee, Box Car Willie, Big Beef, and Goliath for the reds Yellow Bell and Azoychka for yellows Juane Flamee and Kellogs Breakfast for golden/orange Kosovo and another heart type Carbon, Cherokee Purple or Chocolate, and Noir de Crimee for blacks Galinas and Black Cherry---and maybe Sun Gold and Pink Ping Pong. I can grow a couple at my Mom's apartment in containers. I'm thinking Lime Green Salad, and New Big Dwarf for her, and I have a couple of neighbors that I can give some tomato plants to. I really don't have space for more than 25 plants, maybe 30 if I plant some in the front yard. This is insane!!! I have about 80 varieties of seeds and I want to plant them all...I still want to plant peppers, beans, cucumbers, peas, squash, and maybe a couple of melons too. How does my list look. It it well rounded enough to give me a good sampling of tomatoes? Tyffanie

February 28, 2007	#2
Lee Tomatopalooza™ Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NC-Zone 7 Posts: 2,188	As long as you've got Cuostralee in there.... I'm happy! Lee __________________ Intelligence is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put one in a fruit salad. Cuostralee - The best thing on sliced bread.

February 28, 2007	#3
Tomstrees Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NJ Bayshore Posts: 3,848	looks good to me ! ~ Tom __________________ My green thumb came only as a result of the mistakes I made while learning to see things from the plant's point of view. ~ H. Fred Ale

March 1, 2007	#9
where_with_all Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 152	I thought Azoychka was one of my best tasting tomatoes last year. It was early productive and good citrus taste. Not tart. I would keep it __________________ Where With All on Long Island

March 1, 2007	#11
Ruth_10 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MO z6a near St. Louis Posts: 1,349	Was the Azoychka freebie from TGS in 2005 the real deal? I grew it in 2005, but didn't write down what the size was. My sort of fuzzy memory is that it wasn't tennis ball sized, but I could be wrong there. __________________ --Ruth Some say the glass half-full. Others say the glass is half-empty. To an engineer, it’s twice as big as it needs to be.

February 28, 2007	#6
montanamato Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Montana Posts: 1,038	Tyffanie...I am not in the Azoychka fan club either...The plants were nice and productive, but the fruit was hard and tart...It had no balance like a tart red does and tasted strange to me...I think I am in the minority on this one though, as it gets a lot of praise from others...I have concluded, I like my yellows to taste like yellows, and I favor the milder ones...Have you tried Dakota Gold ? It is super for droughty, short seasons. I would send you seed , but I only have a few to grow this year. Sand Hill carries it, but it may be unavailable this year...If growing for a child, I would go with a smaller yellow... Jeanne

February 28, 2007	#7
strax Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: z5 Posts: 146	Azoychka was one of my favorites for flavor. jake

February 28, 2007	#8
pooklette Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Zone 5 Posts: 262	In my garden, Azoychka was early-ish and productive. I considered the flavor pretty average. It was not overly mild and definitely wasn't fruity/sweet...in my garden anyway. I wasn't really bowled over by Azoychka but I would grow it again.

March 1, 2007	#10
Fusion_power Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,250	One possible cause of the 'all over the map' responses about Azoychka is that much of the commercially available seed is NOT of the true Azoychka. The correct description should be a small to medium sized tomato never larger than a tennis ball with a nice yellow color. It ripens early in the 65 to 70 day range from transplant. Flavor is good to very good for its early maturity. In a head to head comparison with Kellogg's breakfast, KB will consistently rank 8.5 and Azoychka about 7.5 or a tad better. The key is that Azoychka ripens about 10 days before the earliest KB. Fusion

March 2, 2007	#13
Fusion_power Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,250	I should have done a better job of describing Azoychka. It is a flattened beefsteak variety that has typically been about the size of a tennis ball with some fruit larger. Its outstanding trait is early maturity. The seed that Tomato Growers Supply has is the correct one. At one time about 4 years ago, they were selling the incorrect and oversized late maturing variety. Fusion

March 2, 2007	#14
PNW_D Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: West Coast, Canada Posts: 961	Azoychka Well, Azoychka has been on and off my grow list a number of times now Anyone grown both this one and Tasmanian Yellow (not the Blushing)? Any preference? TIA __________________ D.

March 2, 2007	#15
Andrey_BY Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Minsk, Belarus, Eastern Europe (Zone 4a) Posts: 2,278	That Russian variety you called Azoychka has at least 25 year history in former Soviet Union gardens under 2 names: Azochka (a kind of Russian female name Aza) aka Zolotoy Barago. We just love this amateurish tomato variety, cause we are more into citrus/tart flavor (or sweet/tart). Even 15 years ago around the time it had been introduced to USA Azochka was among not so many well-known Russian tomato varieties with non-red fruits... __________________ 1 kg=2.2 lb , 1 m=39,37 in , 1 oz=28.35 g , 1 ft=30.48 cm , 1 lb= 0,4536 kg , 1 in=2.54 cm , 1 l = 0.26 gallon , 0 C=32 F Andrey a.k.a. TOMATODOR