Whatever happened to Yellow Jazz?

Labradors2 · January 26, 2017

I'm curious to know what happened to Yellow Jazz? Did Orange Jazz take its place?

I read that Fred was working on an improved Lithium Sunset, although the Lithium Sunset that I recently tasted was AMAZING (thanks again Marsha

) and I plan to grow it in my northern garden this summer.

Linda

ginger2778 · January 26, 2017

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Originally Posted by Labradors2

I'm curious to know what happened to Yellow Jazz? Did Orange Jazz take its place?

I read that Fred was working on an improved Lithium Sunset, although the Lithium Sunset that I recently tasted was AMAZING (thanks again Marsha

) and I plan to grow it in my northern garden this summer.

Linda

You are welcome, Linda. So much fun getting together. I can't wait to do it again.

I think Lithium Sunset was my favorite of all the OP varieties that I grew this season. Definitely coming back.

jtjmartin · January 26, 2017

Lithium Sunset looks beautiful. The taste matches the looks?

Jeff
(I received Lithium Sunset either in the MMMM or another trade.)

Labradors2 · January 26, 2017

Yes it does Jeff and I am always a bit wary of that. Sometimes the good looking ones don't taste so good and people don't seem to notice.

Grow it! Grow it! Grow it!

Linda

BigVanVader · January 26, 2017

I think Fred gave up on it. I still have seeds for it and may grow it in the next year or so.

Fred Hempel · January 26, 2017

Lithium Sunset:

Nice tomato, but not suited for farmers so gave the others the go-ahead to share the line. It is a nice tomato for gardeners, and I am not actively working on it. Fruits too variable. Production not great. Fruits soften way too fast. Those are the reasons I do not recommend it for anyone trying to get decent production and/or sell tomatoes.

I have gotten a couple of examples back from people who like it, and I may release it again at some point (on a small scale at our website).

Yellow Jazz:

An example of where we just have not been able to select a stable OP we are happy with. The flavor and other fruit qualities of Orange Jazz are so much better that we are not even working hard to select a Yellow Jazz line. We are still trialing and selecting in the "Yellow Jazz" area. We have multiple lines that we still work on that might eventually yield a Yellow Jazz that is worth releasing.

Collaborating Memberships:

This is where people get our Yellow Jazz trial lines. Eventually we may give a collaborator the go-ahead to share a Yellow Jazz. Until then, we would prefer to reserve the name for something that we release and are happy with.

Labradors2 · January 26, 2017

Thanks very much for the update Fred. I love your honesty

I hope you will soon discover a Yellow Jazz which is worthy of the name!

In the meantime, I will be growing Lithium Sunset, Sunrise BB and Maglia Rosa this year

Linda

January 26, 2017	#1
Labradors2 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ontario Posts: 3,896	Whatever happened to Yellow Jazz? I'm curious to know what happened to Yellow Jazz? Did Orange Jazz take its place? I read that Fred was working on an improved Lithium Sunset, although the Lithium Sunset that I recently tasted was AMAZING (thanks again Marsha ) and I plan to grow it in my northern garden this summer. Linda

January 26, 2017	#6
Fred Hempel Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Sunol, CA Posts: 2,723	Lithium Sunset: Nice tomato, but not suited for farmers so gave the others the go-ahead to share the line. It is a nice tomato for gardeners, and I am not actively working on it. Fruits too variable. Production not great. Fruits soften way too fast. Those are the reasons I do not recommend it for anyone trying to get decent production and/or sell tomatoes. I have gotten a couple of examples back from people who like it, and I may release it again at some point (on a small scale at our website). Yellow Jazz: An example of where we just have not been able to select a stable OP we are happy with. The flavor and other fruit qualities of Orange Jazz are so much better that we are not even working hard to select a Yellow Jazz line. We are still trialing and selecting in the "Yellow Jazz" area. We have multiple lines that we still work on that might eventually yield a Yellow Jazz that is worth releasing. Collaborating Memberships: This is where people get our Yellow Jazz trial lines. Eventually we may give a collaborator the go-ahead to share a Yellow Jazz. Until then, we would prefer to reserve the name for something that we release and are happy with. Last edited by Fred Hempel; January 26, 2017 at 04:30 PM.

January 26, 2017	#3
jtjmartin Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2016 Location: Williamsburg VA Zone 7b Posts: 1,110	Lithium Sunset looks beautiful. The taste matches the looks? Jeff (I received Lithium Sunset either in the MMMM or another trade.)

January 26, 2017	#5
BigVanVader Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Greenville, South Carolina Posts: 3,099	I think Fred gave up on it. I still have seeds for it and may grow it in the next year or so.