Ted...saras galapagos, and Belmonte tomato seeds

[hornstrider]

I don't know if you remember or not, but you sent me some seeds In exchange for a tomatoville tshirt.....I planted both varieties for the fall....seed tags got mixed up....one mater was very small cherries type, and the other was very productive large plant with fruit approx 2 inches in diameter. ....fall tomatos are generally ok to not very good...the larger mater was much more productive and tasted pretty good....was that larger mater the belmonte?

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by hornstrider

I don't know if you remember or not, but you sent me some seeds In exchange for a tomatoville tshirt.....I planted both varieties for the fall....seed tags got mixed up....one mater was very small cherries type, and the other was very productive large plant with fruit approx 2 inches in diameter. ....fall tomatos are generally ok to not very good...the larger mater was much more productive and tasted pretty good....was that larger mater the belmonte?

I'll let Ted answer but I can tell you that the small one was Sara's Galapagos which I know very well.

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Sara%27s_Galapagos

As for Belmonte, there's more than one of either red or pink that I got from Roberta in Italy from different regions,so Ted will have to answer that one.

Carolyn

[ContainerTed]

Hornstrider, as Carolyn said, the smaller one definitely sounds like Sara's Galapagos - a delicious cherry. Belmonte should have been an average of 12 to 20 ounces. And, Cowlicks Brandywine is easily larger than "2 Inches". You were trying to find "Dona F1" which was being revived by a couple of vendors I referred you to. If you got seeds for that one, then it might be the one.

The real problem is that when the name leaves the plant, being assured of the name is not always 100% possible. Perhaps if you can tell us which varieties you started seeds for, we might be able to narrow it down.

[hornstrider]

Thank you Ted, and Dr Carolyn. I posted this on my android last night from my greenhouse...... it is difficult to type on my phone. I know I planted only two of the varieties you sent me. I planted the seeds w/ the shortest time to fruit (I believe both were 70 days or so). I got the tags mixed up. I am sure the bigger tomato was the Belmonte. Like I said fall tomato's seem to be rather tasteless to me. I have grown Indian Stripe in the fall, and they were not very good to my taste. In the spring they are delicious. I was thinking of planting Belmonte this spring, because they were pretty good in the fall so I assume they will be much better in spring. It was the right size for a salad tomato, and they really pumped out the tomato's. Sara's Galapagos did not do so well. Huge plant, but not many tomato's, and they were really small. I really appriciate your sending the seeds to me. I hope you are enjoying the t-shirt I sent you.

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by hornstrider

Thank you Ted, and Dr Carolyn. I posted this on my android last night from my greenhouse...... it is difficult to type on my phone. I know I planted only two of the varieties you sent me. I planted the seeds w/ the shortest time to fruit (I believe both were 70 days or so). I got the tags mixed up. I am sure the bigger tomato was the Belmonte. Like I said fall tomato's seem to be rather tasteless to me. I have grown Indian Stripe in the fall, and they were not very good to my taste. In the spring they are delicious. I was thinking of planting Belmonte this spring, because they were pretty good in the fall so I assume they will be much better in spring. It was the right size for a salad tomato, and they really pumped out the tomato's. Sara's Galapagos did not do so well. Huge plant, but not many tomato's, and they were really small. I really appriciate your sending the seeds to me. I hope you are enjoying the t-shirt I sent you.

Belmonte is not a salad size variety.

First link,showing some pictures

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...k1.u5HgD76rK4g

As I said,some are red and some are pink, but none of them are salad size.

now the links

https://www.google.com/search?q=belm..._AUIBygA&dpr=1

There's lots of wrong info in the above, but Roberta in Italy sent me several different Belmontes and they had the region they came from associated with the name Belmonte.

Aha, I just looked in my data book to see if I could find the ones Roberta sent me, and here's all of them

Cuore di Bue Rosa; most Bue's are red
Chilo, aka Chilo della Garfagnana, beefsteak
Belmonte Costoluto, pink
Belmonte Calabro,heart and pink
Re Umberto,which I already knew well
Licata Rosa from Sicily, no seeds back from the person doing seed production.
Cornuto delle Ande, already well known
Cuore di Bue Albengo, albengo is a piriform.

Unfortunately I never offered them in a seed offer, there were reasons.

Carolyn

[hornstrider]

Thank you ted...............I planted only 3 varieties this fall. As I have stated fall tomato's for me are hardly worth the effort. If I plant a beefsteak tomato on July 15th by the time the tomato matures it is late November, and I have to worry about a freeze. If I am lucky I may pick a few ripe tomato's before the freeze. To be honest the flavor is not that good..............So I usually plant Juliet tomato's. They do really well in the fall. They are great for canning, and decent in a salad. So this past fall I planted Juliet, Belmonte (seeds you sent me), and Sara's Galapagos (also seeds you sent me). Those are the only seeds I planted. I remember planting your seeds because the little bitty zip lock bags you sent them in were very hard for me to open. I think I got the tags mixed up those 2 varieties. So I harvested 3 varieties of tomato's this fall 1. Juliet, 2. Sara's Galapagos (really small cherie tomato), and 3. Belmonte. The Belmont (from the bag you sent me) tomato did rather well, and tasted pretty good. But the tomato was a small salad type tomato no more than 2.5 inches in diameter. It had a smooth round shape. It was not like what you described above. So I was going to grow this spring. In fact I planted 6 more seeds, and they just germinated. I was hoping since the were decent in the fall they would be much better in the spring. Thank you for the seeds. I have planted several varieties you sent me.

[ContainerTed]

I hope the taste was good on all of them. My one and only goal in saving and distributing seeds is that the recipient of my seeds can grow and taste the wonderful flavors that I enjoy each season. I sincerely hope your future efforts are hugely successful and all your harvests are "very tasty".

[KarenO]

My brother brought me back some seeds from Albania where he was working. Among them is a variety called Belmonte. This may be your tomato. A large red.
KarenO

[KarenO]

I love the large colourful packets. Here is the back. The seeds are from Italy, purchased in a market in Albania.