Terhune: The star of my seed tray

Spartanburg123 · February 4, 2017

Out of 36 seeds I sowed just three days ago, three have germinated and already have spread out their cotyledons- seeds from Marianna's called "Competition Terhune". Only these three have shown up this fast- and I have 6 other varieties planted in the tray. Is there any significance at all to germination speed or vigor this early in the life cycle? Amazing that they came up like this, really.

Thanks!

Darin

Gerardo · February 5, 2017

A great tomato, a very generous Tomatovillian set me up with a few seeds and one of those plants kept on truckin' for close to 9 months. Flavor is right there with standard Terhune (an outstanding tomato), so excellent. Healthy plant, puts out some big ones.

Spartanburg123 · February 5, 2017

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Originally Posted by Gerardo

A great tomato, a very generous Tomatovillian set me up with a few seeds and one of those plants kept on truckin' for close to 9 months. Flavor is right there with standard Terhune (an outstanding tomato), so excellent. Healthy plant, puts out some big ones.

This is potato leaf, right? Did you have the same competition seeds that I have?

Thanks!

BigVanVader · February 5, 2017

My Esterina were up in 3 days. There are usually a few varieties that seem to be up in 3-4 days every year. My new saved seeds usually or a hybrid variety.

AKmark · February 5, 2017

The Terhune competition I got was RL, and the seed out of the 5.42lb tomato I grew from them were all RL so far., I have only grew 4-5 plants from them though, if a PL shows up we will know it was a cross.

Spartanburg123 · February 6, 2017

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Originally Posted by AKmark

The Terhune competition I got was RL, and the seed out of the 5.42lb tomato I grew from them were all RL so far., I have only grew 4-5 plants from them though, if a PL shows up we will know it was a cross.

AKMark- thanks. Can you describe the growth habit of the plant, productivity, average fruit size, etc. on that biggie you grew?

Thanks!

Darin

ContainerTed · February 6, 2017

Well, to throw another stick in the spokes, Mark, I got Potato Leaf from the ones I planted. I have it listed for sale at Heritage Seed Market.

AKmark · February 6, 2017

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Originally Posted by Spartanburg123

AKMark- thanks. Can you describe the growth habit of the plant, productivity, average fruit size, etc. on that biggie you grew?

Thanks!

Darin

The plant with the 5.42 also had a 4 something and a 2.5 on it at the same time. The fruit was good, sweet tasting to me.

Ted, it it pretty obvious the Terhune I have must be a cross. Like I said I only planted a couple from my seeds and they were also RL, but that does not mean that 25 percent will be PL if I plant enough. Did you get the seed from me? If you did the PL you got would verify my thoughts.
I still have some original seed, I may have to plant a few, along with my saved seed from the large tomatoes.
At any rate, there is some real potential to grow giant tomatoes from the seeds mentioned.
Enjoy

AKmark · February 6, 2017

I found a couple of pics of the tomatoes on the plant and picked from the seed I got from the vendor. They would make a decent BLT. LOL. You can see the RL on the plant, just making sure my memory is intact.

ContainerTed · February 6, 2017

Well, Mark, don't jump off the pier just yet. In the first pix above, the foliage shown at the left edge of the pix is what many folks are calling three different things. Some call it "Potato Leaf", some call it "Regular Leaf" because of the serrations, and some are now calling it "Serrated Potato Leaf".

So, the picture doesn't tell me which plant you took that monster from, but if it was that one on the left edge of the picture, then we are all calling the same thing by different names.

I suggest some discussion might be necessary to get us all on the same sheet of music. For a very long time, I lived with Regular and Potato Leaf. Then I had to add Wispy. Some also call it "Fern-like".

I don't have any problem with adding still another type of foliage to our choices. Potato Leaf with those serrations has confused our discussions more than once. The recent exchanges about the stability of Daniel Burson comes immediately to mind. I say let's call it as we see it. Now, that's my thinking. Who's next???

AKmark · February 6, 2017

Hi Ted, I have noticed many plants with an in between leaf pattern too, Early Girl can be very much like that. The pic I posted with the fruit in the sling is the Terhune plant. The pic where the fruit is being held, with the plant to the left, I think is Richardson, if I remember right. (RL) LOL

I was just wondering if I received a cross, now I wonder if leaf types are being identified differently by the community. I always tagged PL as having a smooth edge, but I also have no problem with whatever identification they are tagged with. It is about the tomato itself huh.

Jimbotomateo · February 6, 2017

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Originally Posted by AKmark

Hi Ted, I have noticed many plants with an in between leaf pattern too, Early Girl can be very much like that. The pic I posted with the fruit in the sling is the Terhune plant. The pic where the fruit is being held, with the plant to the left, I think is Richardson, if I remember right. (RL) LOL

I was just wondering if I received a cross, now I wonder if leaf types are being identified differently by the community. I always tagged PL as having a smooth edge, but I also have no problem with whatever identification they are tagged with. It is about the tomato itself huh.

Mark, I had a brandywine weighed twenty ounces and thought it was a monster!

. Do you use special support for those things?.

AKmark · February 6, 2017

Jimbo, we do tie those up with support, it is tears to lose one. A sling tied off on something works great.

Tormato · February 6, 2017

Early "sprouting" is likely due to the depth of your sowing. Deep seed can't be seen even though it likely has sprouted. I sow extremely shallow, with 45% up in 3 days, 45% in 4 days.

JLJ_ · February 6, 2017

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Originally Posted by Spartanburg123

This is potato leaf, right? . . .

I believe that your potato leaves should be correct for Terhune (original Terhune), maybe not for a cross of Terhune with something else . . . I believe that the person who first found, named and distributed Terhune said 8/10/2008 "They are indeterminate (so far) potato leaf 1-2 pound deeply ribbed deep pink flat INCREDIBLE tomatoes . . .If I offer them up, I am going to call them Terhune . . ."

February 4, 2017	#1
Spartanburg123 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Spartanburg, SC Posts: 1,262	Terhune: The star of my seed tray Out of 36 seeds I sowed just three days ago, three have germinated and already have spread out their cotyledons- seeds from Marianna's called "Competition Terhune". Only these three have shown up this fast- and I have 6 other varieties planted in the tray. Is there any significance at all to germination speed or vigor this early in the life cycle? Amazing that they came up like this, really. Thanks! Darin

February 6, 2017	#7
ContainerTed Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: 6a - NE Tennessee Posts: 4,538	Well, to throw another stick in the spokes, Mark, I got Potato Leaf from the ones I planted. I have it listed for sale at Heritage Seed Market. __________________ Ted ________________________ Owner & Sole Operator Of The Muddy Bucket Farm and Tomato Ranch

February 6, 2017	#10
ContainerTed Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: 6a - NE Tennessee Posts: 4,538	Well, Mark, don't jump off the pier just yet. In the first pix above, the foliage shown at the left edge of the pix is what many folks are calling three different things. Some call it "Potato Leaf", some call it "Regular Leaf" because of the serrations, and some are now calling it "Serrated Potato Leaf". So, the picture doesn't tell me which plant you took that monster from, but if it was that one on the left edge of the picture, then we are all calling the same thing by different names. I suggest some discussion might be necessary to get us all on the same sheet of music. For a very long time, I lived with Regular and Potato Leaf. Then I had to add Wispy. Some also call it "Fern-like". I don't have any problem with adding still another type of foliage to our choices. Potato Leaf with those serrations has confused our discussions more than once. The recent exchanges about the stability of Daniel Burson comes immediately to mind. I say let's call it as we see it. Now, that's my thinking. Who's next??? __________________ Ted ________________________ Owner & Sole Operator Of The Muddy Bucket Farm and Tomato Ranch

February 5, 2017	#2
Gerardo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: San Diego-Tijuana Posts: 2,598	A great tomato, a very generous Tomatovillian set me up with a few seeds and one of those plants kept on truckin' for close to 9 months. Flavor is right there with standard Terhune (an outstanding tomato), so excellent. Healthy plant, puts out some big ones.

February 5, 2017	#4
BigVanVader Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Greenville, South Carolina Posts: 3,099	My Esterina were up in 3 days. There are usually a few varieties that seem to be up in 3-4 days every year. My new saved seeds usually or a hybrid variety.

February 5, 2017	#5
AKmark Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Wasilla Alaska Posts: 2,010	The Terhune competition I got was RL, and the seed out of the 5.42lb tomato I grew from them were all RL so far., I have only grew 4-5 plants from them though, if a PL shows up we will know it was a cross.

February 6, 2017	#14
Tormato Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MA Posts: 4,971	Early "sprouting" is likely due to the depth of your sowing. Deep seed can't be seen even though it likely has sprouted. I sow extremely shallow, with 45% up in 3 days, 45% in 4 days.