Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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April 8, 2017 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: NC - zone 8a - heat zone 7
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What Is Frost ?
Last night AccuWeather forecast 38F, Weather Channel 39F and my own weather station indicated 35F and we got frost.
Now how to explain that ? What is FROST ?
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April 8, 2017 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
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Frost is that white stuff that makes tomato plants look like boiled turnip greens.
Mine spent the night in the house. They go in the ground Monday. |
April 8, 2017 | #3 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Zone 5A, Poconos
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I Googled the cause of frost (source: weather.gov)
The following list are some meteorological conditions that can lead to frost conditions:
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April 8, 2017 | #4 |
Tomatovillian™
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Sometimes early Spring and late Fall my neighbor gets hit with frost even without
an announced warning. Tenders like basil get hit first in the Fall. Mine have held on weeks past his and he is right across the street though different terrain. Our gardens are about a football field apart. I'm uphill and he is nestled in a dip. My soil is just a tad warmer. The morning dew and often fog holds longer just that small dip downhill. My garden dries out quicker by almost an hour. |
April 8, 2017 | #5 |
Tomatovillian™
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Hoar frost is the coolest frost I have ever seen in my life.
Hoar coming from the old English word for old age and white hair as in hoary old witch. Worth |
April 8, 2017 | #6 |
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Tomatovillian™
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Nothing happened to my over 50 tomatoes , 20 peppers, cukes, watermelon, corn an potatoes. Only some eggplants got some bite. As I mentioned the temperature did not go under 35F
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April 8, 2017 | #8 |
Tomatovillian™
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A 5 letter word that really should be 4 letters.
I once had a neglected garden where the weeds were taller than the plants. The weeds actually protected the plants from the frost. |
April 8, 2017 | #9 |
Tomatovillian™
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April 8, 2017 | #10 |
Tomatovillian™
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If you have a light frost where the temperature does not go below freezing for very long you can wash the frost off the plants to prevent damage. The damage comes when the sun comes up and the ice crystals act like hundreds of tiny magnifying glasses. If you can wash it off before the sun gets very high or if they are shaded for long enough that it melts before the sun hits them.
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April 8, 2017 | #11 |
Tomatovillian™
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The link explains the difference between a freeze and a frost.
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April 8, 2017 | #12 |
Tomatovillian™
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Radiational cooling is what causes a single-layer plastic greenhouse or high tunnel to drop below the outside temperature on cold, clear nights. So it is possible to cover your plants with plastic to protect them from a frost, yet have them freeze under the plastic, even though the air temperature outside did not get below freezing.
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Tomatovillian™
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April 8, 2017 | #14 |
Tomatovillian™
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Good point. If the plastic is low enough, it will get heat from the ground. The cooling below outside effect is from Cornell's research on high tunnels, but I don't know if it is the same with a low tunnel or row cover.
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April 8, 2017 | #15 |
Tomatovillian™
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Right. Radiation heat loss to the space is what happens in the deserts .
So that is what frost at 35F happened last night. It might even happen with tonights's low of 40 with clear starry skies.
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