Tomato, Peppers, Eggplant and Okra

Antipodean · July 15, 2017

Hello from the deep deep deep south, the southern hemisphere actually!

This is about the time of the year that i do my tomato starts, however this year i also want to start peppers, eggplant and okra.

Just wondering about timing, would you start these at the same time, earlier or later?

Thanks in advance!

Worth1 · July 15, 2017

Peppers sooner okra much later if you have cold weather.
Egg plant about the same.
Okra is one of the few plants that thrive in hot weather, it does not like the cold.
One time I had the TV turned up too loud and the okra heard the freeze/frost forecast and fell over dead before it even got cold.
Just looked you seem to be about like where I live in Texas in the winter.

Worth

ScottinAtlanta · July 16, 2017

In order of earliness:
Superhot peppers
okra
eggplants
tomatoes

Antipodean · July 16, 2017

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worth1

Peppers sooner okra much later if you have cold weather.
Egg plant about the same.
Okra is one of the few plants that thrive in hot weather, it does not like the cold.
One time I had the TV turned up too loud and the okra heard the freeze/frost forecast and fell over dead before it even got cold.
Just looked you seem to be about like where I live in Texas in the winter.

Worth

Thanks worth, yes i'm in a hot temperate zone.....winters are very mild, no frost. I did grow okra last year for the first time (from purchased seedlings) and they were great in the heat. They are not common down under but I like them, very tasty!
Thanks again!

Worth1 · July 16, 2017

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antipodean

Thanks worth, yes i'm in a hot temperate zone.....winters are very mild, no frost. I did grow okra last year for the first time (from purchased seedlings) and they were great in the heat. They are not common down under but I like them, very tasty!
Thanks again!

You are welcome.
You should be able to just direct sow the okra right out in the garden after soaking a day or two.
I let mine germinate before I plant them.
No need to transplant.
Worth

My Foot Smells · July 16, 2017

I grow okra in cheap 2 gallon pots initially, the soil heats up faster. Then I just cut the bottom out of the pot and wiggle it into the ground. The hotter the better and I wait until it starts to bend over before watering.

At seasons end, have to tie a chain and pull em up with a 4x4

Worth1 · July 16, 2017

Quote:

Originally Posted by My Foot Smells

I grow okra in cheap 2 gallon pots initially, the soil heats up faster. Then I just cut the bottom out of the pot and wiggle it into the ground. The hotter the better and I wait until it starts to bend over before watering.

I dont think my okra has drooped but maybe 4 times this year in almost 100F/37C degree heat.
When I turned on the drip it hasn't drooped one time.
One hour in the morning and one hour in the evening.
Then I come home and hand water it.
This allows the okra to get huge but still tender.
I think the stuff could grow in a swamp.

Worth

gorbelly · July 16, 2017

I've always started my C. annuum peppers around the same time as my tomatoes, and it's been fine. This year, I'm trying a bunch of C. chinense, and I made the rookie mistake of treating them like C. annuum. They really need to be started much, much earlier.

dmforcier · July 16, 2017

I assume you will be starting the Solanaceae indoors under lights. Most peppers, especially C.chinense, as early as you can - up to a month before starting tomatoes (I go two weeks). The pods take a long time to ripen. How early depends on how many 12" plants you can keep indoors at a time. Can't speak to the okra and eggplant.

Antipodean · July 17, 2017

A big thank you to all your replies, the info and ideas have been great.

I'm probably running behind on the peppers, but i'll get them started tomorrow as I have the day off work (yippee!).

I use a combination of indoor lighting and just putting them outside depending on the weather - today for example is 20 (68f) and sunny and its the middle of winter!

Bye for now!

Gardeneer · July 17, 2017

Start peppers at least 3 weeks before tomatoes.

I direct sow cukes and okra. Or just germinate them in cold frame.
I plant cukes about 2-3 weeks after planting out tomatoes and pepper in the garden .
Okra even couple of weeks later.

July 15, 2017	#1
Antipodean Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Perth Posts: 46	Tomato, Peppers, Eggplant and Okra Hello from the deep deep deep south, the southern hemisphere actually! This is about the time of the year that i do my tomato starts, however this year i also want to start peppers, eggplant and okra. Just wondering about timing, would you start these at the same time, earlier or later? Thanks in advance!

July 16, 2017	#6
My Foot Smells Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Pulaski County, Arkansas Posts: 1,239	I grow okra in cheap 2 gallon pots initially, the soil heats up faster. Then I just cut the bottom out of the pot and wiggle it into the ground. The hotter the better and I wait until it starts to bend over before watering. At seasons end, have to tie a chain and pull em up with a 4x4 Last edited by My Foot Smells; July 16, 2017 at 10:29 AM.

July 16, 2017	#9
dmforcier Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,825	I assume you will be starting the Solanaceae indoors under lights. Most peppers, especially C.chinense, as early as you can - up to a month before starting tomatoes (I go two weeks). The pods take a long time to ripen. How early depends on how many 12" plants you can keep indoors at a time. Can't speak to the okra and eggplant. __________________ Stupidity got us into this mess. Why can't it get us out? - Will Rogers

July 17, 2017	#10
Antipodean Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Perth Posts: 46	Thank you! A big thank you to all your replies, the info and ideas have been great. I'm probably running behind on the peppers, but i'll get them started tomorrow as I have the day off work (yippee!). I use a combination of indoor lighting and just putting them outside depending on the weather - today for example is 20 (68f) and sunny and its the middle of winter! Bye for now!

July 17, 2017	#11
Gardeneer Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: NC - zone 8a - heat zone 7 Posts: 4,919	Start peppers at least 3 weeks before tomatoes. I direct sow cukes and okra. Or just germinate them in cold frame. I plant cukes about 2-3 weeks after planting out tomatoes and pepper in the garden . Okra even couple of weeks later. __________________ Gardeneer Happy Gardening !

July 15, 2017	#2
Worth1 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Den of Drunken Fools Posts: 38,539	Peppers sooner okra much later if you have cold weather. Egg plant about the same. Okra is one of the few plants that thrive in hot weather, it does not like the cold. One time I had the TV turned up too loud and the okra heard the freeze/frost forecast and fell over dead before it even got cold. Just looked you seem to be about like where I live in Texas in the winter. Worth

July 16, 2017	#3
ScottinAtlanta Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 2,593	In order of earliness: Superhot peppers okra eggplants tomatoes

July 16, 2017	#8
gorbelly Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Southeastern Pennsylvania Posts: 1,069	I've always started my C. annuum peppers around the same time as my tomatoes, and it's been fine. This year, I'm trying a bunch of C. chinense, and I made the rookie mistake of treating them like C. annuum. They really need to be started much, much earlier.