" Blue Andes"

michael johnson · April 5, 2007

Any info on Blue Andes would be appreciated- why is it called blue, or any photo's as I have no idea what it looks like or plant habit etc, it sounds a very interesting plant even though a bit scarce to obtain, my seedlings of it are growing and looking healthy in their third leaf stage.

**carolyn137** · April 5, 2007

I know of Blue Fruit, aka Blaufruct, and also the variety Blue, but not Blue Andes.

What did your source have to say about it?

Blue is originally from Estonia and of course is not blue, it's described as PL, with fruit colors ranging from dark smoky red to greyish to maroon, etc., as described by various SSE members who have grown it.

Blaufruct, which I've grown, is about the same as regards fruit colors.

GreenThumbGal_07 · April 5, 2007

Michael,

If I haven't told you already, here is some information about Blue Andes. I gave you the seeds for it. (I'm glad it's growing out well for you. Seed is nice and fresh.)

I grew Andes (a.k.a. Andine Cornue, Cornue des Andes, Andes Horn) in 2005 (seed source was Underwood Gardens). One of the plants had blue-green (not medium green) foliage, and I set it aside. I think this plant also had blockier (not as pointed) red fruit, and I thought it was good. So I called it Blue Andes and saved seed from it.

That's it!

GTG

michael johnson · April 6, 2007

Thanks-to both of you for the info.

The plants are growing well at the moment and I am hoping for a good crop eventualy-it sounds an interesting plant-so I shall look forward to the results.

**carolyn137** · April 6, 2007

One of the plants had blue-green (not medium green) foliage, and I set it aside. I think this plant also had blockier (not as pointed) red fruit, and I thought it was good. So I called it Blue Andes and saved seed from it.

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Do you think it's possibly now a hybrid and needs dehybridizing? I ask only b'c you mention two changes, foliage color and fruit shape, and that wouldn't be typical of a spontaneous mutation.

Maybe best not to name something until you know it's genetically stable. I dunno, but it would make it difficult if something called Blue Andes got distributed around when it wasn't stable.

As is said, time will tell.

GreenThumbGal_07 · April 9, 2007

Carolyn,

You are right, "time will tell" and for now Blue Andes will be the "working title" for this variety.

The plant grown in 2006 resembled the parent plant of 2005, so I will keep an eye on it for about four more generations and see what comes up.

As far as "Mr. Mango/Mr. Potato Leaf" is concerned (this is the plant from the stray seed I found in an Amishland Heirloom Seeds mailing envelope): apparently this one is still in the process of segregating. When I grew it out last year (two plants) I had two different types of fruit from it: round and bland, and flat and flavorful. The second type was the same as the fruit from the parent plant, so I saved seed from that.

GTG

April 5, 2007	#1
michael johnson Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK. Posts: 960	" Blue Andes" Any info on Blue Andes would be appreciated- why is it called blue, or any photo's as I have no idea what it looks like or plant habit etc, it sounds a very interesting plant even though a bit scarce to obtain, my seedlings of it are growing and looking healthy in their third leaf stage.

April 5, 2007	#2
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	I know of Blue Fruit, aka Blaufruct, and also the variety Blue, but not Blue Andes. What did your source have to say about it? Blue is originally from Estonia and of course is not blue, it's described as PL, with fruit colors ranging from dark smoky red to greyish to maroon, etc., as described by various SSE members who have grown it. Blaufruct, which I've grown, is about the same as regards fruit colors. __________________ Carolyn

April 6, 2007	#5
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	One of the plants had blue-green (not medium green) foliage, and I set it aside. I think this plant also had blockier (not as pointed) red fruit, and I thought it was good. So I called it Blue Andes and saved seed from it. ***** Do you think it's possibly now a hybrid and needs dehybridizing? I ask only b'c you mention two changes, foliage color and fruit shape, and that wouldn't be typical of a spontaneous mutation. Maybe best not to name something until you know it's genetically stable. I dunno, but it would make it difficult if something called Blue Andes got distributed around when it wasn't stable. As is said, time will tell. __________________ Carolyn

April 5, 2007	#3
GreenThumbGal_07 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Northern California Posts: 300	Michael, If I haven't told you already, here is some information about Blue Andes. I gave you the seeds for it. (I'm glad it's growing out well for you. Seed is nice and fresh.) I grew Andes (a.k.a. Andine Cornue, Cornue des Andes, Andes Horn) in 2005 (seed source was Underwood Gardens). One of the plants had blue-green (not medium green) foliage, and I set it aside. I think this plant also had blockier (not as pointed) red fruit, and I thought it was good. So I called it Blue Andes and saved seed from it. That's it! GTG

April 9, 2007	#6
GreenThumbGal_07 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Northern California Posts: 300	Carolyn, You are right, "time will tell" and for now Blue Andes will be the "working title" for this variety. The plant grown in 2006 resembled the parent plant of 2005, so I will keep an eye on it for about four more generations and see what comes up. As far as "Mr. Mango/Mr. Potato Leaf" is concerned (this is the plant from the stray seed I found in an Amishland Heirloom Seeds mailing envelope): apparently this one is still in the process of segregating. When I grew it out last year (two plants) I had two different types of fruit from it: round and bland, and flat and flavorful. The second type was the same as the fruit from the parent plant, so I saved seed from that. GTG