Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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April 23, 2007 | #1 |
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Kentucky Heirlooms
Listed below are plants for the "Kentucky Heirloom" section I am planting this year; it would be helpful to know what is missing are misnamed. All comments appreciated. Feels good to play in the dirt again!
Spider Ky BarnesMountain Pink Ky BarnesMountain Yellow Ky Beefsteak Ky BlackMountain Pink Ky Buckeye Yellow Ky Depps Pink Fire Fly Ky Frank's Large Red Ky Grandfather Ashlock Ky Granny Cantrell's German Ky Heirloom Ky Joe Thieneman's Australian Heart Ky Lenny & Gracie's Yel Ky Lenny & Gracies Red Ky Lumpy Red Ky Old Kentucky Ky Opal's Homestead Ky PikeCounty Ky Pink Sampler Ky Plate Ky Potato Leaf Ky Purple Dog Creek Ky Rose Beauty Ky Super Choice Ky Vinson Watts Ky Viva Lindsey Heirloom Ky Williams Striped Ky Yoders German Yellow
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April 23, 2007 | #2 |
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Spider, are you in contact with Vgary who has a collection of KY tomato heirlooms?
Grandfather Ashlock is not a KY heirloom. It is Carl Ashlock's family heirloom from NC. There are some others on that list that I don't think are KY heirlooms but I just don't have the time right now to dig for the background info.
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April 23, 2007 | #3 |
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Carl told me his grandfather grew them in Sanford KY. At least that's what I remembered. I could so easily be wrong.
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April 23, 2007 | #4 |
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Kentucky Heirlooms
Following text extracted from letter I received along with seeds from Carl; and I believe Thomas was from Sanford.
Bert: The Grandfather Ashlock tomato was grown for years in Eastern Kentucky by my grandfather Thomas George Ashlock. It was a prized tomato and seed was saved since the early 1900’s. My dad grew some that exceeded 3 lbs. On my mother’s home made bread one slice would suffice for the most delicious sandwich. A couple of years ago, Dr Carolyn Male PHD suggested that I give it a name hence Grandfather Ashlock. The blossoms were not bagged so there may be a few sports. Should be potato leafed, and take about 85-90 days to produce tomatoes. I appreciate your giving it a try in your garden and hope it performs well for you. With kindest regards, Carl Ashlock.
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April 23, 2007 | #5 |
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Carolyn:
VGary is the one started me on the Kentucky collection, providing me with many of the plants/seeds; he is a frequent and welcome visiting "guru" to my garden.
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April 23, 2007 | #6 |
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It was me who goofed.
I no longer have Carl's first e-mail to me b'c that was one computer ago and while Carl lives in NC I'd not remembered it was first grown in Ky. Spider nicely e-mailed me to bring this to my attention, and I'll thank him here a second time. I had intended early on to list it in the SSE Yearbook but it was so late for me here and I had so few fruits that I never got enough seeds two years in a row to be able to list it and now others are listing it, so that's fine.
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April 23, 2007 | #7 |
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Purple Dog Creek is missing. Gary is growing it this year, I sent him seeds and grow it every year now.
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April 23, 2007 | #8 |
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Yikes. Now I wonder if I started it early enough. Last year knowing it was a late varietyI started it around March 15. Yes it was ungainly when it went out but it was also one of the earliest and most productive varieties I had last year. I will be very disappointed if I don't have Grandfather Ashlocks this year. It's a great tomato.
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April 24, 2007 | #9 |
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Kentucky Heirloom Tomatoes
I just discovered your thread here, Bert!
I am so proud of your Kentucky Heirloom Tomato Collection! Folks, Bert's garden is a work of art with so many tomatoes, peppers, beans, gourds and other things I can't remember. Some weeks ago, I took a Lunch of Soup and Sandwiches and we talked "tomatoes" into the afternoon. I am pleased to call him -- Friend! Gary
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April 24, 2007 | #10 |
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Grandfather Ashlock was a great tomato for me last year also, I was indeed very surprised at the general size of the tomatoes-once it got into its stride and about the third truss up the stem- really huge tomatoes and a great producer through the season.
Bert- whatever you do-dont forget to save me some seed for that (Buckeye Yellow) at the end of the season, I shall have some interesting tomatoes for you to try in return- Including Blaby's Special, and Jupiter. |
July 28, 2007 | #11 |
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Here's Kentucky Pink Stamper [new name, used to be called Kentucky Heirloom]. It weights 1lb. 8ozs. As if it means anything, it came back into the line-up for this year from last year. Thanks, Mary, for sharing this one.
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July 30, 2007 | #12 |
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Looks great Earl. Gary is trying to find Mr. Stamper in Kentucky. But there are lots of Stampers in Kentucky it seems. I've tried looking from out here and haven't had any luck. I don't know if Gary has had any luck finding him. So if you see this Gary, do you have any leads? Many thanks to Kentucky gardeners. They are a generous lot. It was suggested to me that I really ought to give the tomato a name, so that's why I went with the current name.
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July 30, 2007 | #13 |
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kentucky wonder
Any one grown Kentucky wonder? It is a reg. leaf, low acid, large pink tomato. It is grown locally by a garden center on Dixie Dr. in Dayton, Ohio. Moritz garden center has no history on it.If I get a ripe one for Choptag I am bringing it.
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December 1, 2007 | #14 |
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Have started trying to get KY heirlooms myself; is Uncle Mark Bagby one? I dont see it on the list.
Also Blue Ribbon Tomatoes, which is located in KY, has some varieties not on this list. Last edited by kygreg; December 1, 2007 at 12:57 AM. |
December 1, 2007 | #15 |
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Uncle Mark Bagby
kygreg, You will be pleased to know that Baker Creek has Uncle Mark Bagby listed in the 2008 catalog which will be out soon. IDigMyGarden.com has it in the listing along with several other Kentucky varieties in a link to their draft copy of the catalog. And, Yes, I think Maria has Uncle Mark Bagby as well as other varieties at her BlueRibbonTomatoes; she is listing in the SSE book this year as well.
Gary
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