Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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May 26, 2020 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Suburban Washington, DC (Zone 7A)
Posts: 347
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What do you do with volunteers?
For the first time, I basically just turned my old beds and amended them instead of doing some new strange growing thing. And, I suppose not surprisingly, I have about 7 volunteers sprouting up in different places.
I am super type-A about varieties -- I want to know what it is that's growing! In part that's so I can save seed and trade with confidence, but also I just like knowing what the varieties are. So I'm having a dilemma. Do I just yank them? Do I let them grow a while then transplant and see what they turn out to be? I am having a hard time just contemplating ditching a viable plant, but also, what the heck will they be?! What do you usually do? |
May 26, 2020 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: connecticut,usa
Posts: 1,152
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segregate and keep an eye on them as the season progresses.
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May 26, 2020 | #3 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Southeastern PA
Posts: 1,420
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I rip them out. They usually turn out to be cherry tomatoes.
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May 26, 2020 | #4 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: connecticut,usa
Posts: 1,152
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My mother used to say compost pile tomatoes are always cherry type.
2015 I had volunteers that were big,probably german johnson compost version.That was a drought year and they were drought resistant. Not watered for 2 weeks and they were still alive. |
May 26, 2020 | #5 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Suburban Washington, DC (Zone 7A)
Posts: 347
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Interesting! In fairness, they are in a spot where I have planted cherry tomatoes before, so it could be. But now I am curious to see if they turn out to be cherries or not. I'm leaning toward transplanting them elsewhere and growing just for curiosity's sake.
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May 26, 2020 | #6 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: MA
Posts: 903
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I've always ripped them out, when they germinate in a bed, for reasons already stated (control, unknown ID..) and also 1) because I usually have enough plants not to bother, 2) by the time they germinate outside, they're too small and behind for my growing area.
This year was a bit different. When I started my seeds in March, I must have reused some peat pucks or seed mix of "duds" from last year. To my surprise, I got 4 seedlings from that batch, and they quickly outgrew the newly planted seeds. I kept them, they started flowering in the basement, and I ended up planting them first, one in each corner of a large bed. I know they're not cherries, I never grow those. They can only be from one of my favorites, and I'm looking forward to the surprises they'll give me. I'm growing around 50 plants this year, so I have plenty of known types for saving seed, and not much risk in the experiment. Most of what I grow ends up as sauce. |
May 27, 2020 | #7 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: connecticut,usa
Posts: 1,152
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Some people claim volunteers like from a compost pile are always cherry type,even if you never grew a cherry tomato in your life.
My mother said that ,and she was a gardener for 85+ years. I think a lot depends on your winter temps and how it effects the seeds. That is why I never freeze tomato seeds. |
May 27, 2020 | #8 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Southeastern PA
Posts: 1,420
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Last year I had a volunteer near the chicken coop so I let it grow for them since they love tomatoes. It turned out to be a Black Cherry. I had grown them the previous year in my garden.
The chickens pick their own tomatoes when they are ripe. |
May 27, 2020 | #9 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Northern Minnesota - zone 3
Posts: 3,231
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My volunteers don't sprout until the weather heats up, and so have a slim chance of getting big enough to produce anything before frost in the fall. But one year I found a very healthy perfect plant when we removed the sweet corn stalks after harvest in August. I transplanted it into a large pot and brought it in the house before frost. It ripened a few delicious medium sized tomatoes in Nov/Dec. I could have at least narrowed down the variety if I looked at my planting charts for that bed for the previous year, but never got around to it.
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May 27, 2020 | #10 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posts: 2,593
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I select ten of the most vigorous volunteers every year, and after 8 years have kept two that I continue to plant and select each year: A pale yellow large cherry, and a very productive red saladette. Two of my must grow plants - I call them Scott's Yellow Cherry and Eden's Temptation, just for fun.
I wonder how many years I have to select them before actually having my own varieties? |
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