Kotlas, et al:

[eyolf]

I found a 14-year-old packet of JSS3570 seeds last March and planted about a dozen of them. They were apparently set aside for some reason. Looking up th description in an old SSE catalog of the year I obtained them, the description was vague.
Searching again, as I'm planting out, my phone revealed this obscure forum post by a relatively famous name among gardeners:

1/4/01


Lots of deserved praise for Stupice. We have a similar variety, Kotlas.
Back in the 70's we got tomato seeds from a 4H project in Oregon. We grew
it, called it JSS 3570 -- how do I remember that? -- and selected what was to
become Sprint, which we renamed Kotlas, but that's a story for another day.
I believe that the ancestral variety for both Kotlas and Stupice is an old
Russian or East European tomato called Imur Prior Beta or IPB, which I first
saw in the catalog of Canadian Edward Lowden Seeds in the early 70's. I
think that it is still being maintained in the amateur underground. Anyway,
if you grow all three, you'll find them similar, and you might have a
different preference than other folks. However you slice it, if you don't
grow one of the three, you probably won't have tomatoes this good tasting to
eat so early in the season -- which makes their genes important. Ever think
about saving your own seeds of this kind of unique variety?

Rob Johnston
Johnny's Selected Seeds
Albion, Maine

Thread found here:
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.gard...m/0bUqGHnmm4gJ

I have grown pretty much all of the Sprint/Kotlas siblings, and recognize the similarities. IPB, probably the grandmother of all, was the most variable and least-attractive to me. Stupicke/Stupice was slightly less flavorful than Kotlas, but it could be a year-to-year thing, and my personal preference.

This year, my Stupice seeds were nearing the 8-year mark, Bloody Butcher 7, so they got the nod. Last year I grew Kotlas and Lycoprea.

I just wanted to share this tidbit of history.

I notice another thread that mentioned Stupice and Bloody Butcher. Let's hope I remember it in July when the plants are maturing and yielding fruit!





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[Labradors2]

Tania says pretty much the same thing.

http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Kotlas

Perhaps you can save some seeds for the MMMM swap.

Linda