good determinates

[vegetal87]

hello, i search to try many determinates variéties but with a good flavour.

in my ressearch i put in my list

- glacier
- Grushovka
- Mac Pink
- Northern Lights

if you know others i'm very interrested
many thanks

[Rena]

I have had great luck with Black Sea man.

[barkeater]

Campbells 1327 is the most flavorful I can think of.

Sophies Choice tastes pretty good, is very early and very compact.

I tried Manitoba this year. It's very prolific and early, but is much like a supermarket tomato, pretty with little flavor.

[OmahaJB]

I had good luck a year or so ago with Czech's Bush. Of all the varieties I tried growing in containers it was the most prolific. At the time I was growing indoors with less than adequate lighting, plus I was watering too often. I would not describe it as great tasting but that was most likely due to my growing conditions.
For me the taste was tart and a little tangy not sweet at all. Someone from the Gulf coast posted on Gardenweb that it performed very well for them in the heat & humidity.

It's rugose so I'm not sure if it's considered a dwarf or a determinate.

Jeff

[Andrey_BY]

I have got about a hundred good flavoured determinates from former USSR... Every year it is very difficult to choose what to grow During the half of a century (1920s-1970s) our Soviet AES and breeding Institutes had been working hard to invent mostly early determinates with globe red fruit with good flavor and they did it, of course

Chernomor (Black Sea Man) is a good choice indeed

[spyfferoni]

I also agree that Campbell's 1327 is a great tomato. My plant is just loaded and the fruit are just about flawless and have a good taste. Rio Grande is another determinate variety that I am growing this year. It is a paste type and is extremely prolific. I would say it has a good flavor and is Okay for eating in salads, but I plan to use them mainly for making sauce and salsa.
You might consider trying Oregon Spring and Siltez also since you have cooler weather where you live. Not everyone likes them, but they beat store tomatoes and they produce well in cool, even cloudy weather. Lime Green Salad comes to mind also though it is more of a dwarf variety as well as New Big Dwarf.

Hope this helps,

Tyffanie

[lumierefrere]

New Yorker has been good for me. Persey is excellent.

[montanamato]

Clear Pink Early, Redskin, Early Rouge or Basket Vee...All are early, prolific and very good tasting...

Jeanne

[barkeater]

Vegetal, Northern Lights is not determinate. Mine is about 7 feet tall.

[obispo45]

I haven't grown a large number of determinates.... but the ones that performed excellently for me were Grushovka(thats a great one, hope it works out well for you too!!) and Taxi, which produces nice tennis ball size rather blemish free bright yellow fruit. First year I grew it the taste was very good to excellent, however the next year it's yield was significantly higher and taste declined. Still was a gorgeous looking tomato though...probably will grow it again in the very near future.

[arvisp]

Its old and ordinary but I think Rutger's is pretty good. Marglobe isnt bad either.

[Tomstrees]

Even though Bloody Butcher is listed as a "semi-det" tomato, it turned out to be det. for us.
Early red small globes, with a great flavor, I def. suggest it!

~ Tom

[dice]

I didn't get much production from Odessa
(15-20 per plant, biggest ones about
6 oz, most smaller), but the flavor is remarkable.

They are quite tart (what seed vendors often call
"good canners"), and eaten when firm
(a little underripe) they taste sour to me.
But I let one get dead ripe (red all over and
soft to the touch) for a fairer test to determine
whether it deserved to have seeds of it saved
by me, and the flavor was outstanding. It still
had a noticeable acid bite to it, but completely
ripe the tartness was balanced with a little more
sugar, and it is perhaps the strongest tasting
tomato that I have had this (cool, rather rainy)
year.

(Might be good to cross with a sweet, mild-tasting
big tomato with outstanding production. If that
yields something with good production and a
compromise between those flavors, that would
be a fine tomato. Odessa is quite early, too.)

I like Fireworks II for flavor, production, and
texture, too, but the flavor of a ripe Odessa
has way more impact on the taste buds.

Edit:

I was just looking at the description of Odessa
on Jeff Nekola's archive
( http://sev.lternet.edu/~jnekola/Heirloom/plantlist.htm ),
mentioned in another thread here
( http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=3490 ).

In his description of Odessa, he says
"Heavy, early set of 3" fruits..."

I guess I'll have to try Odessa in a sunnier spot and
see if that achieves production more in line with
what I got this year from Fireworks II and Spring
King (nowhere near 16oz and mild flavor this
year on the latter, but a lot of fruit: one branch
routinely has as many tomatoes as a whole Odessa
plant had).

Note: a 3-foot tomato cage looks "knee high" on
a mature Spring King plant. A couple of mine look
like giant spiders covered with fruit and tomato
leaves.

[korney19]

Some of my favorites are:

Sophie's Choice (rarely over 18" tall for me)
New Big Dwarf
Lime Green Salad
Mountain Princess (the heirloom, not part of the Mountain Series; extreme production all season long here.)
Rio Grande (great for salsa, sauce, canning; another long season determinate.)

Also, Earl of Edgecombe is an excellent orange, it may be a semi-determinate, usually around 4ft tall or so.

[Ruth_10]

Picardy is semi-determinate for me and has very good flavor, production, and beautiful fruit.