Tomatoville® Gardening Forums


Notices

Discussion forum for the various methods and structures used for getting an early start on your growing season, extending it for several weeks or even year 'round.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old October 13, 2007   #1
bigbubbacain
Tomatovillian™
 
bigbubbacain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Zone 9 Texas, Fort Bend County
Posts: 436
Default Tomatoes for a greenhouse

I'm building a greenhouse. My significant other has informed me that I'll be restricted to 3 tomato plants. I'd love at least some kind of cherry type and a paste or plum type. I'd be open to most anything for the 3rd one. What I really need are recomendations for types suitable to a greenhouse environment. Any suggestions?

Bubba
bigbubbacain is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 14, 2007   #2
Andrey_BY
Tomatovillian™
 
Andrey_BY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Minsk, Belarus, Eastern Europe (Zone 4a)
Posts: 2,278
Default

A new greenhouse only for 3 tomato plants? Is it a joke? Consider to put at least 4 plants located in 4 corners

In my experience you can grow almost any tomato variety indoor but ultra-early types which like moderate temperatures and give you only several clusters even in greenhouse conditions. They are just not worth to be grown in greenhouse and with so limited total amount of plants. Choose any indeterminate productive varieties with a good taste... I can recommend hundreds of such tomato varieties from my part of the world, but let American gardeners from the South suggest you some...
And I know that Michael will be very happy if you choose any dwarfs like he does
__________________
1 kg=2.2 lb , 1 m=39,37 in , 1 oz=28.35 g , 1 ft=30.48 cm , 1 lb= 0,4536 kg , 1 in=2.54 cm , 1 l = 0.26 gallon , 0 C=32 F

Andrey a.k.a. TOMATODOR
Andrey_BY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 14, 2007   #3
dcarch
Tomatovillian™
 
dcarch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: NY
Posts: 2,618
Default

Is it that neccessary to have a greenhouse in zone 9?

dcarch
__________________
tomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomato matomato
tomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomato matomato
tomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomato matomato
dcarch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 14, 2007   #4
cottonpicker
Tomatovillian™
 
cottonpicker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: SE PA..near Valley Forge
Posts: 839
Default

bigbubba.... I don't grow in a greenhouse but down in OK where I came from I once saw a greenhouse filled with tomato plants--- all were ONE variety-- BUFFALO. They were trained up strings to the ceiling and limited to one or two growing stems by pruning. They also removed all bottom leaves, progressing up the stems as tomatoes ripened along the way. Was a beautiful sight. I did not try any of the friuit so I can't attest to the flavor, skin thickness,juiciness, etc... so you might want to check out Buffalo as a greenhouse variety for which it was bred.

GOOD luck.... maybe you can strike a bargain with your significant other for a few more tomato plants in that GH.
LarryD
__________________
"Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause".
Victor Hugo
cottonpicker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 14, 2007   #5
amideutch
Tomatovillian™
 
amideutch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Germany 49°26"N 07°36"E
Posts: 5,041
Default

BBcain, one seed vendor I know of that has varieties especially for greenhouse growing is Johnny's. Here's a link.
http://www.johnnyseeds.com/catalog/s...ubcategory=497
__________________
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
totally worn out, shouting ‘...Holy Crap .....What a ride!'
amideutch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 14, 2007   #6
mdvpc
Tomatoville® Moderator
 
mdvpc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 4,386
Default

BB-What are the dimensions going to be of your greenhouse? That makes a big difference on what you might want to grow. My greenhouse is about 8 feet tall, about 8 feet wide and 17 feet long-its a hobby greenhouse from Texas Greenhouse Company. Here is a recent photo. A big sprawling indeterminate plant may not be the choice you want to make. And yes, dwarves are my choice in my greenhouse during the fall and winter.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg winter greenhouse tomatoes 014 (Small).jpg (78.2 KB, 59 views)
__________________
Michael
mdvpc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 14, 2007   #7
bigbubbacain
Tomatovillian™
 
bigbubbacain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Zone 9 Texas, Fort Bend County
Posts: 436
Default Thanks for the input guys!

Thanks Tomatodor! We actually agreed on 3 or 4 plants because we need the room for our orchids.

DCArch: A greenhouse in our zone IS necessary for alot of the orchids and sub-tropicals that we grow. It may be zone 9 here, but we do get the occasional cold snap.

Cottonpicker: thanks for the tip on Buffalo. I'll need to look for that one.

Amiedutch: Thanks for reminding me about Johnny's seeds.

Michael: the dimensions will be 8 wide, 8 high and 12 long. So I think I'll want to consider det. or dwarf types. Any dwarf types you like that stand out for flavor or taste? Tell me about those bags your plants are growing in. That looks like an ideal set-up, and I'm already a big fan of drip irrigation.
bigbubbacain is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 14, 2007   #8
dcarch
Tomatovillian™
 
dcarch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: NY
Posts: 2,618
Default

Hanging baskets can be interesting possibilities.

dcarch
__________________
tomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomato matomato
tomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomato matomato
tomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomato matomato
dcarch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 14, 2007   #9
mdvpc
Tomatoville® Moderator
 
mdvpc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 4,386
Default

BB-those are 5 gallon grow bags from groworganic.com They also have other sizes.

Off the top of my head, I would suggest:

Citron Compact
Mano Rugose
Mini-Red Cherry
Kimberly-this gets bigger than the 3 above
Quarter Century-ditto

I am growing a bunch of new dwarves this fall-the info is in the undercover forum here and is entitled something like "Fall Dwarf Grow-out in the greenhouse." You might want to take a look at that thread as it progresses to see if there is something you like.
__________________
Michael
mdvpc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 14, 2007   #10
bigbubbacain
Tomatovillian™
 
bigbubbacain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Zone 9 Texas, Fort Bend County
Posts: 436
Default Thanks Michael!

Where exactly can I get seeds for dwarf varieties? Johnny's sells mainly determinate and indeterminate full-size plants. Who do you like to buy from?


Bubba
bigbubbacain is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 14, 2007   #11
feldon30
Tomatovillian™
 
feldon30's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Rock Hill, SC
Posts: 5,346
Default

You should jump into the dwarf project.

It is an effort by Tomatoville members to increase the number of good-tasting dwarf tomato varieties (currently just a few -- New Big Dwarf, etc.) to dozens. Specifically, adding different colors, flavors, etc. There's a huge subforum here at Tomatoville about it.
__________________
[SIZE="3"]I've relaunched my gardening website -- [B]TheUnconventionalTomato.com[/B][/SIZE] *

[I][SIZE="1"]*I'm not allowed to post weblinks so you'll have to copy-paste it manually.[/SIZE][/I]
feldon30 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 14, 2007   #12
mdvpc
Tomatoville® Moderator
 
mdvpc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 4,386
Default

Bubba-Andrey has some listed in SSE Annual if you are a member. But lets make it easy-figure out what you want, and if I have the seed for the varieties you want, pm me and I will send you seed. For 3-4 varities, you dont need but a few seed of each variety. I have about 75 dwarf varieties.

Let me know.
__________________
Michael
mdvpc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 15, 2007   #13
stratcat1
Tomatovillian™
 
stratcat1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Michigan's Sunrise Side
Posts: 83
Default

I bought my seeds for Kimberly, Golden Dwarf Champion,
Orange Tree and New Big Dwarf at

http://www.victoryseeds.com/catalog/main_vegies.html
stratcat1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 15, 2007   #14
kimera
Tomatovillian™
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: North Florida
Posts: 29
Default

I'm in Zone 9, too. Try Sungold cherry tomatoes. You will not be disappointed.
kimera is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 16, 2007   #15
mdvpc
Tomatoville® Moderator
 
mdvpc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Posts: 4,386
Default

Sungold is a great tomato, but I would never grow it in the greenhouse-especially one 8 feet tall like mine is-it would take it over.
__________________
Michael
mdvpc is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:22 PM.


★ Tomatoville® is a registered trademark of Commerce Holdings, LLC ★ All Content ©2022 Commerce Holdings, LLC ★