Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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February 9, 2008 | #1 |
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Which cherries for BIG tomato flavor?
I love cherry tomatoes with a big, complex tomato flavor. However, cherry varieties are usually described as being sweet, like that's a good thing. I'm looking for suggestions of cherry tomatoes with BIG tomato flavor in a variety of shapes and colors. This is in contrast to the thread asking for suggestions for sweet cherry tomatoes.
Here are my winners from last year, which I plan to grow again: Galina (love, love, LOVE it! Big tomato taste, very productive even in high temps) Wild Cherry Tommy Toes Black Cherry Isis Candy (Note: Wild Cherry is from Tomato Growers Supply. This one deserves a LOT more attention--pops in your mouth with BIG tomato flavor, plus BIG production even in record-breaking heat. To me it looks like other currant tomatoes from Mexico, such as Matt's Wild Cherry and Mexico Midget--is that true?) Here are the ones I've grown in the past and didn't much care for: Dr. Carolyn Dr. Carolyn Pink Jaune Flammee (will give this one another try but not this year) Juliet--ptooey! Ildi Riesentraube (didn't produce AT ALL) Sugary Sweet Baby Girl (OK, but not as good as Tommy Toes) Sungold Yellow Pear (productive, cute, but bland) And here are the contenders for this year: Brown Berry Camp Joy (aka Chadwick) Sweet Orange Cherry Porter's Dark Cherry Coyote Mirabell Mini-orange Cerise Orange Ceylon Purple Haze (from Selected Plants) I'd love to hear more about my contenders from people who have grown them, or to receive additional suggestions. Thanks! Cynthia (Since my screen name is feralcatfriend, it's worth mentioning that I'm typing with a former feral puss purring on my lap and his dear brother is performing his ablutions on top of my monitor.) |
February 9, 2008 | #2 |
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February 9, 2008 | #3 |
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Cherries
I like the taste of the yellow "Chello" tomato. It is a little bigger than the regular cherry size and in some years it has had a nice pink starburst on the bottom. Very nice to add to the color wheel of cherries.
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February 9, 2008 | #4 |
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Glad to see someone else prefers cherry tomatoes that aren't sickening sweet. I found one last year called Husky Cherry that fits the bill. It replaces Sweet Baby Girl as my favorite red cherry. I see you like Back Cherry, me too....if it's from TGS.
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February 9, 2008 | #5 |
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I love Black Cherry (bred by Vince Sapp at TGS), and Sungold to a somewhat lesser extent. I have yet to find a red cherry that knocks my socks off. I grew Husky Red Cherry (aka Husky Cherry Red) and wasn't impressed.
I have yet to grow Sweet 100 or Porter's Cherry.
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February 9, 2008 | #6 |
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There are two variations of Dr. Carolyn Pink, one of which has superb flavor and the other with very poor flavor. I grow and love the good flavored one.
Purple Haze will blow you out of the water. Galina is hard to beat. It is a consistent winner in my garden and in gardens across the U.S. Black Cherry is one of the parents of Purple Haze. Now you have an idea why Purple Haze is so good. Riesentraube to me has a very deep and intense tomato flavor but not sweet enough to have balanced flavor. I like it anyway and it is productive for me. You might give Guernsey Pink Blush a try. I just located seed this year and have it listed. Others you might try are Anait, and Rose Quartz Multiflora. as an fyi, the 'wild cherry' sold by TGS is Matt's Wild Cherry. They are one and the same. DarJones |
February 9, 2008 | #7 |
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Mexico Midget will probably fit your requirements. Big, bold tomato taste, in a
tiny little package! (I think 2 will fit on a dime!) Another to try is Sungold Select II. Think Sungold, but without the sweetness that makes Sungold so unique. A co-worker of mine actually prefers SG Sel II because it tastes more like a tomato than SG. Lee
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February 9, 2008 | #8 |
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I grew Brown Berry last summer - found it fairly strong flavored.
I agree about the "good" Dr. Carolyn Pink. But while not super-sweet, it doesn't have the boldness of Brown Berry. |
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February 9, 2008 | #10 |
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Galina's Yellow is one of all time favourites. Jaune Flammée, though a bit big to be called a cherry IMHO, has an assertive, tomato flavour. These two are regulars in my garden. Black Cherry is also fantastic though it always has a sweet component to my taste buds.
Snow White I thought an excellent cherry, though it does have some sweetness. Burwood Prize, not described as a cherry by the supplier, is of cherry size. It is red and while not a big flavour, is definitely very tomatoey.
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February 9, 2008 | #11 |
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Has anyone tried Tess's Land Race Currant? Or Besser?
What company is the supplier for Burwood Prize? I'm grateful for all the input. My father loves cherry tomatoes and I locate the plants so he can graze when he goes out to get the newspaper and the mail. |
February 10, 2008 | #12 |
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I grew Besser many years ago...it didn't "wow" me is all I remember.
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February 10, 2008 | #13 |
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I can't say enough about Chadwick's - it was the best 'tomato' flavor of any cherry I've grown. Whether that was just for me here in my little microclimate, or whatever, for what it's worth, Chadwick's has been one of my favorite big tomato flavors in a cherry. (also called Camp Joy, correct?)
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February 10, 2008 | #14 |
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Some say Chadwick Cherry and Camp Joy are one and the same, others say the opposite. Who knows?
Burwood Prize is an Australian variety. The only commercial supplier I know of is Eden Seeds here in Australia, and they don't ship overseas. It's often available in the SSE Yearbook, as is Concrete Red which is very similar. I'm more than happy to send you some seeds of Burwood Prize. Just pm me with your address.
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February 10, 2008 | #15 |
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I thought Chadwick and Camp Joy were the same, but it seems they are like one another, but different. After Googling, I found this site with the explanation: http://www.reneesgarden.com/articles...joytomato.html.
However, I am glad to find that both Chadwick and Camp Joy meet my objective of a cherry with big, complex tomato flavor. I'm tempted to grow them both and see for myself. If I do, then it will be fun to bring them to MAGTAG so everyone can compare. Cynthia |
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