Sungold X Mom's F2

PNW_D · April 22, 2008

Curious if anyone has grown this one? I've got three seedlings going ........ seed received in a surprise package

Some good material at work here, so anxious to see the F2 result. Will post pics shortly. Wee bit a crud evident.

IL LO N

Mom's - 80 days, indet., regular leaf plant with a high yield of 6-12 oz, yellow fruit with red marbling, outstanding flavor.

B.C KO T

Sungold - 55-60 days, large indet., regular leaf, very sweet, bright orange cherries, .5", on long clusters, delicious fruity taste, one of our favorite cherries, along with Josefina

Tania · April 23, 2008

D.,

I am anxiously waiting to see what you get. Are the three seedlings look identical so far? I haven't grown Mom's, but I'd think its foliage could be different from Sungold's, and some differences may be apparent even at the early stages.

Anyone knows what Sungold X Mom's F1 looked like? And who's crossed the two varieties?

PNW_D · April 23, 2008

Actually had four seedings - didn't think I 'd kept the runt .....

Anyhoo, much different foliage, especially on bottom right plant (I may have resized too small, but you get the idea). Amazing what one can see when the pics come up full screen - the top right plant has black dots - should I

yet? Also some CRUD on starter leaves - on all expect the narrow leaved lower right plant.

All were transplanted into 8 oz. cups last weekend - now just for some warmer weather - snow in April in Vancouver - unbelievable

Tania · April 23, 2008

wow - it is going to be very very interesting!

Tormato · April 23, 2008

D. & Tania,

I trialed Sungold x Mom's F1 last year. Seed was from David, who's original source, I think, was someone from Belgium.

The F1 produced 1 1/4" cherries, the color of Sungold. The flavor was

K.

Gary

PNW_D · April 23, 2008

Thank you for additional background info Gary - would you happen to be (gf) ? these initials were included on seed package received from David.

Tormato · April 24, 2008

D.,

That'd be me.

Did David also send you (Sungold x Juliet ) x Black Cherry F2?

Gary

crazytomato · April 24, 2008

I also recieved both crosses in a round robin,if they are from david than i know the person,great gardner who lives in belgium.He is also crossing different types of lettuce and cabbages to devolp a new spieces,got some seeds from him and til now his lettucemix is awsome.

PNW_D · April 25, 2008

Thank you Tormato and crazytomato for the additional information - and yes Gary I also received the SJ x Black Cherry - planned to trial that one next year - only so much space

crazytomato - does the person in Belgium post here? would love to see some pics of the F1 - wonder what his target goal was for these crosses?

Anyhoo, will add above info to my data base and report out as season progresses.

PNW_D · June 11, 2008

Thought it time to update this thread - here's a picture of Plant 1 (will retake pics of Plants 2, 3 and 4). Seems to be doing well despite our cold wet weather.

Anyone have a pic of Mom's for comparison?

PNW_D · July 14, 2008

Sungold x Mom's F2 Plant 1

Well, here we are almost mid-July - and where are the tomatoes? I found these wee babies on my inspection tour this a.m. The weather here on the coast has been amazing the last week or so - I expect to see a lot more like this within the next couple of days. I have had to remove a few yellowed leaves, but on the whole, most plants are looking really good. I'm growing four plants from this cross - curious to see if I get anything larger than a cherry - as Mom's (a bi-colour) is a larger tomato - but the cherry gene does often dominate it appears. No fruit set on the other three plants as of yesterday.

Anyhoo, can't complain - as this one and New Yorker are the only ones to set fruit to date

Tormato · July 16, 2008

D.,

Sungold x Mom's (F1) was the second earliest in my garden last year, right behind Sungold. I really can't give a DTM, because my methods are unconventional.

Also, I was down to my last seed of Large Pink Bulgarian PL. I now have a single plant, starting to produce fruit. Have you named it, yet?

Gary

P.S. The Sungold x Black Cherry (F1), from last year, now has a working name...

"Skinsipid". You can take it from there. I hope your F2 grow-outs next year, do better tastewise.

PNW_D · July 31, 2008

Here's an update on Sungold x Mom's F2 - four plants all now have baby fruit. Pics from the top down: Plant 4, Plant 3, Plant 2, Plant 1. I expected a little more variation in the F2, however Plant 3 looks like it might be bigger than a cherry. Should also add that I'm seeing Verticillium I think - brown V's, yellowing leaves on Plants 1 and Plant 2. Plant 3 is looking the healthiest.

p.s.: Tormato - please refresh my memory re Large Pink Bulgarian PL?? did I share seeds?? Totally blank on this one

kygreg · July 31, 2008

I am growing a (SungoldxJuliet) X Black Cherry. The fruit are just now ripening; Mine looks almost exactly like a Sungold F! but the fruits are slightly larger and the taste seems to be milder than the Sungold F!.

Tormato · July 31, 2008

kygreg,

F1 or F2?

D.,

Will this do?

www.tomatoville.com/private.php?do=showpm&pmid=42623

Gary

April 22, 2008	#1
PNW_D Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: West Coast, Canada Posts: 961	Sungold X Mom's F2 Curious if anyone has grown this one? I've got three seedlings going ........ seed received in a surprise package Some good material at work here, so anxious to see the F2 result. Will post pics shortly. Wee bit a crud evident. IL LO N Mom's - 80 days, indet., regular leaf plant with a high yield of 6-12 oz, yellow fruit with red marbling, outstanding flavor. B.C KO T Sungold - 55-60 days, large indet., regular leaf, very sweet, bright orange cherries, .5", on long clusters, delicious fruity taste, one of our favorite cherries, along with Josefina __________________ D.

April 23, 2008	#2
Tania Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Anmore, BC, Canada Posts: 3,970	D., I am anxiously waiting to see what you get. Are the three seedlings look identical so far? I haven't grown Mom's, but I'd think its foliage could be different from Sungold's, and some differences may be apparent even at the early stages. Anyone knows what Sungold X Mom's F1 looked like? And who's crossed the two varieties? __________________ Tatiana's TOMATObase

April 23, 2008	#4
Tania Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Anmore, BC, Canada Posts: 3,970	wow - it is going to be very very interesting! __________________ Tatiana's TOMATObase

April 23, 2008	#6
PNW_D Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: West Coast, Canada Posts: 961	Thank you for additional background info Gary - would you happen to be (gf) ? these initials were included on seed package received from David. __________________ D.

April 25, 2008	#9
PNW_D Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: West Coast, Canada Posts: 961	Thank you Tormato and crazytomato for the additional information - and yes Gary I also received the SJ x Black Cherry - planned to trial that one next year - only so much space crazytomato - does the person in Belgium post here? would love to see some pics of the F1 - wonder what his target goal was for these crosses? Anyhoo, will add above info to my data base and report out as season progresses. __________________ D.

April 23, 2008	#5
Tormato Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MA Posts: 4,971	D. & Tania, I trialed Sungold x Mom's F1 last year. Seed was from David, who's original source, I think, was someone from Belgium. The F1 produced 1 1/4" cherries, the color of Sungold. The flavor was K. Gary

April 24, 2008	#7
Tormato Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MA Posts: 4,971	D., That'd be me. Did David also send you (Sungold x Juliet ) x Black Cherry F2? Gary

April 24, 2008	#8
crazytomato Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: the netherlands Posts: 137	I also recieved both crosses in a round robin,if they are from david than i know the person,great gardner who lives in belgium.He is also crossing different types of lettuce and cabbages to devolp a new spieces,got some seeds from him and til now his lettucemix is awsome.

July 14, 2008	#11
PNW_D Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: West Coast, Canada Posts: 961	Sungold x Mom's F2 Plant 1 Well, here we are almost mid-July - and where are the tomatoes? I found these wee babies on my inspection tour this a.m. The weather here on the coast has been amazing the last week or so - I expect to see a lot more like this within the next couple of days. I have had to remove a few yellowed leaves, but on the whole, most plants are looking really good. I'm growing four plants from this cross - curious to see if I get anything larger than a cherry - as Mom's (a bi-colour) is a larger tomato - but the cherry gene does often dominate it appears. No fruit set on the other three plants as of yesterday. Anyhoo, can't complain - as this one and New Yorker are the only ones to set fruit to date __________________ D.

July 16, 2008	#12
Tormato Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MA Posts: 4,971	D., Sungold x Mom's (F1) was the second earliest in my garden last year, right behind Sungold. I really can't give a DTM, because my methods are unconventional. Also, I was down to my last seed of Large Pink Bulgarian PL. I now have a single plant, starting to produce fruit. Have you named it, yet? Gary P.S. The Sungold x Black Cherry (F1), from last year, now has a working name... "Skinsipid". You can take it from there. I hope your F2 grow-outs next year, do better tastewise.

July 31, 2008	#13
PNW_D Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: West Coast, Canada Posts: 961	Here's an update on Sungold x Mom's F2 - four plants all now have baby fruit. Pics from the top down: Plant 4, Plant 3, Plant 2, Plant 1. I expected a little more variation in the F2, however Plant 3 looks like it might be bigger than a cherry. Should also add that I'm seeing Verticillium I think - brown V's, yellowing leaves on Plants 1 and Plant 2. Plant 3 is looking the healthiest. p.s.: Tormato - please refresh my memory re Large Pink Bulgarian PL?? did I share seeds?? Totally blank on this one __________________ D. Last edited by PNW_D; July 31, 2008 at 04:15 PM. Reason: added p.s.

July 31, 2008	#14
kygreg Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: kentucky Posts: 1,019	I am growing a (SungoldxJuliet) X Black Cherry. The fruit are just now ripening; Mine looks almost exactly like a Sungold F! but the fruits are slightly larger and the taste seems to be milder than the Sungold F!.