Jubilee mutation?

moulman · April 30, 2008

Hi folks, it has been many months since I was here talking toms.
We are having a looong winter here in the north, and it is barely beginning to be spring. I had my garden planted mid-may last year, but this year it looks like early June!

Anyway, I love Jubilee and have planted them for a number of years. Last year I was surprised to find a number of large ones growing on one plant that were heart-shaped. There were 4 or 5 I believe - but not all of them on this plant were - many had a normal globe shape. Other than shape, they were a normal Jubilee in color and taste.

I saved seeds from 2 of them, and am currently growing the seedlings from these. They germinated rapidly, and appear vigorous and look like normal little toms.

So, I will wait and see what they produce this year. My question is, if this were a mutation, would all the toms on the plant they came from have been heart shaped?

And if so, would I expect all seedlings to produce hearts?

Matt

**carolyn137** · April 30, 2008

So, I will wait and see what they produce this year. My question is, if this were a mutation, would all the toms on the plant they came from have been heart shaped?

And if so, would I expect all seedlings to produce hearts?

****

Matt, if it were a true muation then all the fruits should have been heart shaped. The fact that they weren't suggests to me that it was a temperature induced event and there are several varieties that I see with such shape changes from time to time.

But you'll know for sure when you set out the plants from those saved seeds and see what they produce..

moulman · April 30, 2008

I will post when they arrive.

matereater · April 30, 2008

Carolyn, could it possibly be cross pollination from a nearby plant ?

moulman · April 30, 2008

I didn't grow any hearts last year. The only yellow/golds I grew were Lemon Boy and Jubilee. I would think if it were xpolination with a red /pink variety it would have showed.

These toms were a light yellow/gold color. If it were a x with Lemon Boy, Lord only knows what these seeds might produce!

April 30, 2008	#1
moulman Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: Idaho Posts: 68	Jubilee mutation? Hi folks, it has been many months since I was here talking toms. We are having a looong winter here in the north, and it is barely beginning to be spring. I had my garden planted mid-may last year, but this year it looks like early June! Anyway, I love Jubilee and have planted them for a number of years. Last year I was surprised to find a number of large ones growing on one plant that were heart-shaped. There were 4 or 5 I believe - but not all of them on this plant were - many had a normal globe shape. Other than shape, they were a normal Jubilee in color and taste. I saved seeds from 2 of them, and am currently growing the seedlings from these. They germinated rapidly, and appear vigorous and look like normal little toms. So, I will wait and see what they produce this year. My question is, if this were a mutation, would all the toms on the plant they came from have been heart shaped? And if so, would I expect all seedlings to produce hearts? Matt __________________ No one ever learned a thing while they were talking.

April 30, 2008	#2
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	So, I will wait and see what they produce this year. My question is, if this were a mutation, would all the toms on the plant they came from have been heart shaped? And if so, would I expect all seedlings to produce hearts? **** Matt, if it were a true muation then all the fruits should have been heart shaped. The fact that they weren't suggests to me that it was a temperature induced event and there are several varieties that I see with such shape changes from time to time. But you'll know for sure when you set out the plants from those saved seeds and see what they produce.. __________________ Carolyn

April 30, 2008	#3
moulman Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: Idaho Posts: 68	I will post when they arrive. __________________ No one ever learned a thing while they were talking.

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matereater Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: S.E. Michigan (Livonia) Posts: 1,264	Carolyn, could it possibly be cross pollination from a nearby plant ? __________________ Steve Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult

April 30, 2008	#5
moulman Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: Idaho Posts: 68	I didn't grow any hearts last year. The only yellow/golds I grew were Lemon Boy and Jubilee. I would think if it were xpolination with a red /pink variety it would have showed. These toms were a light yellow/gold color. If it were a x with Lemon Boy, Lord only knows what these seeds might produce! __________________ No one ever learned a thing while they were talking.