Super Sioux

[BR]

I see in the SSE catalog there is a Super Sioux Select and a Super Sioux Original as well as Super Sioux. It's starting to get confusing. What's the difference and how do the Supers compare to just plain Sioux? Sioux has been my favorite in the past for canning whole tomatoes.

[carolyn137]

I see you posted this same question at GW and I answered you there this AM.

But I'm sure you were referring to the SSE YEarbook, which is not a seed catalog and access is only to SSE members, as opposed to the SSE Public seed catalog from which anyone can order/.

Cutting to the chase there isn't much difference between the three, reading from the blurbs, so let's hope that someone who has grown more than one of them in the same year can give you feedback.

Note that the last one was a personal selection not associated with a seed Co as were Sioux and Super Sioux.

[Tomstrees]

Super Sioux is neighbor across the streets favorite tomato for production and flavor. They are very tastey, so I'm going to grow one in my patch this season.

Not really sure of the difference though between Sioux & Super Sioux -
Prolly the "super" is "improved".

~ Tom

[creister]

From what I understand, Super Sioux is supposed to be even more heat tolerant than the original Sioux.

[Douglas14]

I grew Sioux several years ago. It had a nice tangy flavor. I decided to grow a couple of plants of it again this year.

[violet0996]

I haven't grown Sioux, but I grow Super Sioux every year as part of my fall garden because it sets at high temps. It starts setting for me around 97F.

[creister]

That's not typo is it Violet? 97 degrees? How does it taste?

[elkwc36]

I can only comment from growing them both in the same year one time. I found Super Sioux to be a little bigger but not good as tasting or as heavy a producer for me. Last year stressed a lot of plants and probably should be more than a one year comparison to make a fair judgement. But a few other growers I know have the same opinion. My plan is to grow Sioux again but not sure if I will Super Sioux. The supers, news and improved aren't always the best in my opinion. JD

[dice]

I got the impression from Seeds of Change's description
of Super Sioux that it was bred to add fusarium and
verticillium wilt resistance to Sioux. If your garden is not
plagued with either of those, there probably would not be
much advantage in growing the "Super" version.

(Although most breeders would still select the most vigorous
and productive plants when selecting during the successive
generations of growing out a cross to a stable OP, so one
would expect to get a little more than merely the added
disease tolerance from the new version. But they might
also have been selecting for firmness, uniformity, etc,
commercially important traits that they may have sacrificed
some flavor, etc to get. So one really needs to grow the
original and disease tolerant "Super" version side by side
for a few seasons to see which one really suits one's own
particular preferences and growing area better.)

[Gardeneer]

BUMP
I've got the seeds
It is nice to know that it is does well in the heat. We've got the heat down South. I am searching for heat tolerant tomatoes.
I,ve discovered another one : Pruden's Purple

How about productivity and taste ... ?
What is the growth habit ? I mean plant size and vigor.

[b54red]

I was not impressed with the flavor unless you like a very tangy tomato without a lot of balance. It did set earlier than most tomatoes but not as well as some others I grow every year in the late summer and fall. It also produces quite a bit smaller fruit during the hot weather which is normal but for me they were mostly too small. I much prefer Pruden's Purple, Indian Stripe PL, Spudakee, and Arkansas Traveler as my heat setting tomatoes although there are others that do well in the heat I find that these are very consistent. They also have the advantage of not being so terribly small in hot weather.
Indian Stripe PL was by far the best setter during extremely high temps but everyone doesn't like black varieties. My second heaviest setting tomato was Pruden's followed by Arkansas Traveler. I will say though as fall has moved on that Arkansas Traveler has done the best in late fall.

Bill

[Gardeneer]

Bill, thanks for the complete review of SS.
I have the following on my wish list;

Arkansas Traveler , Spudaki ,Bradley, IS PL.
This coming season will be my discovery year here in the Carolina . My weather and climate is more like typical SC though I am in NC.

[MarlynnMarcks]

Originally Posted by Gardeneer

BUMP
I've got the seeds
It is nice to know that it is does well in the heat. We've got the heat down South. I am searching for heat tolerant tomatoes.
I,ve discovered another one : Pruden's Purple

How about productivity and taste ... ?
What is the growth habit ? I mean plant size and vigor.

When I grew it, it was prolific and disease resistant and tasted a lot like Brandywine. As I don't like Brandywine I did not grow it again. But if you like Brandywine, by all means try it. It is easy to grow and made lots of tomatoes.

[Gardeneer]

Originally Posted by MarlynnMarcks

When I grew it, it was prolific and disease resistant and tasted a lot like Brandywine. As I don't like Brandywine I did not grow it again. But if you like Brandywine, by all means try it. It is easy to grow and made lots of tomatoes.

Marlynn, thanks for the comment.
Sure , I like BW taste . So I should like SS. Also I am not very picky on taste except for when it is really bland

[b54red]

Originally Posted by Gardeneer

Marlynn, thanks for the comment.
Sure , I like BW taste . So I should like SS. Also I am not very picky on taste except for when it is really bland

I think Prudens was the tomato being referred to not SS. Super Sioux taste nothing like a Brandywine.

Bill