Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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July 26, 2008 | #1 |
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suggestions for tart tomatoes
I have several Indian friends who have asked me if I know what varieties are more tart in flavor as this is more suitable for their cooking. I must say that this stumped me as I normally like my tomatoes to be sweeter or complex in flavor but I don't favor tartness so much. Can anyone help me?
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July 27, 2008 | #2 |
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Jaune Flammée can be quite sharp, as can Green Zebra.
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July 27, 2008 | #3 |
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Nepal. Medium-sized red ball and tomatoey.
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July 27, 2008 | #4 |
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Sandpoint
Silvery Fir Tree Tigerella, aka Mr Stripey, the small red with jagged gold stripes Green Zebra .......come to mind off the top of my head but I'll think about it. Again, since taste is personal and subjective you're going to get lots of different opinions here.
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July 27, 2008 | #5 |
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Sioux would be a nice "tangy" choice.
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July 27, 2008 | #6 |
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Brandywine
Earl's Faux Cuostralee Big Red Mortgage Lifter mater |
July 27, 2008 | #7 |
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Thanks for all the replies. I also thought of Silvery Fir Tree but that was about as far as I got. Do you know how hard it is to look for a description in any seed catalog that says this tomato is more "tart" or acidic? Almost all of them will use the words full flavor, robust tomato flavor, sweet, but that doesn't help me at all. Tangy is probably the closest I've gotten description-wise, I guess.
Mater, your choices are what I would call complex or full flavor but I don't know about tart. Especially Bwine, EF and Cuostralee (all of which I find deliciously full flavored but not tart enough for my friends). How does Big Red and ML compare to the other three? If they're similar then they won't work for my friends. Thank you for your suggestions though. Nepal was one I considered as well seeing that it came from that region but I've never grown it so wasn't sure. Carolyn, I know I'm going to get differing suggestions but any help at all will at least get me started on how to point the way. And I always appreciate your suggestions being that you've tried so many of them. Green Zebra is another one I didn't think about--I've grown them twice and once they were tangy sweet and amazing and the second time they were tart so I am confused about that variety. Thank you again everyone for your help. Keep them coming! |
July 27, 2008 | #8 |
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I would say Sioux also. I'm growing it for the first time this year, and I really like it. It is on the tangy, acidic side, but in a nice way.
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July 27, 2008 | #9 |
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Hi Annie,
It may depend on growing conditions and the hot summers we have here as well as my tendency to water very seldom but all of those tomatoes I listed I would describe as very tart. I prefer tart tomatoes above all others so these are staples in my garden. I don't like the taste of green tomatoes, though. Aside from the tartness, they have an additional taste that is hard to describe but doesn't agree with my palate. Here is how I would rank the varieties I gave you in order of tartness, as grown here. Brandywine Sudduth's Cuostralee Earl's Faux Big Red Mortgage Lifter I should mention that there are some varieties that I do considered fullbodied but not extremely tart. A few of those are Neves Azorean Red, New Big Dwarf and Mong. mater |
July 28, 2008 | #10 |
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Most of tomato varieties from Russia and Eastern Europe are more tart than sweet.
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Others that I can thinkof, in addition to the ones I posted above would be almost any of the earlier commercial varieties such as: Valiant New Yorker Break O Day Manalucie Rutgers Wisconsin 55 ......and the like
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July 28, 2008 | #12 |
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Thank you again everyone for your recommendations. I will go google where to find seeds for these varieties now. If anyone knows one place where I can find most of the seeds, that would be appreciated.
Cheers, Annie |
July 28, 2008 | #13 |
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Annie,
Aunt Gertie's Gold really packs a punch, when cooked. I've tried many of the tomatoes listed in this thread, Tigerella, Green Zebra, Sioux, Brandywine, Earl's Faux, Neves Azorean Red, Break O'Day, Rutgers, etc... I'm trialing a tomato, that goes way beyond any of these in tartness. If I find that it's stable, would you like some seeds? Gary |
July 28, 2008 | #14 |
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I'm trialing a tomato, that goes way beyond any of these in tartness. If I find that it's stable, would you like some seeds?
***** Gary, you must not have tried Sandpoint, one of my very few spitters. Purple Calabash and Noire des Cosebeauf weren't far behind.
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July 29, 2008 | #15 |
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Carolyn,
I've got to establish a benchmark, first. Sandpoint will then be compared. Gary |
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