epidermis colors????

[tomatoaddict]

I know that Red tomatoes have a yellow skin and that Pink ones have a clear skin. Now I am wondering about the others. Could someone please help on this?

Black/Purple=??? epidermis
Yellow=???
Gold=??
White=???
Green=???
Stiped varieties+???

[PNW_D]

Black/Purple (Purple Russian) - clear skin for this one

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by tomatoaddict

I know that Red tomatoes have a yellow skin and that Pink ones have a clear skin. Now I am wondering about the others. Could someone please help on this?

Black/Purple=??? epidermis
Yellow=???
Gold=??
White=???
Green=???
Stiped varieties+???

AS far as I know there are just the two epidermis colors and it wroks well for red( yellow epidermis) and pink ( clear epidermis) but the color of a fruit is a combination of the epidermis color and the interior flesh color.

Not all oranges or golds or yellows have the same flesh color so there are different genes at work.

Cherokee Purple has a clear epidermis and the mutation to a yellow epidermis led to Cherokee Chocolate, a much darker color. Black from Tula also has a clear epidermis and it's why you often see me refer to pink/blacks and red/blacks.

So I don't know off hand the epidermis color of the golds vs the yellows vs the oranges, assume the whites have a clear epidermis and assume the greens also have a clear epidermis.

I have a couple of sources where I think I might find some answers and if I remember to do so I will since I don't have any fresh fruits to find out myself.

Maybe those in the more southern climes can check their fruits and chime in. But something tells me that with some of the other colors it isn't going to be as simple as lumping all golds, or all oranges, or all true yellows as a group when it comes to epidermis color.

As it is we're under a winter watch here for snow/freezing rain, turning eventually to rain.

[Ruth_10]

And then to complicate things further, if I am not mistaken, some green-when-ripes have a clear epidermis that then takes on some yellow color at the blossom end when they're ripe.

[annecros]

I am in a Southern clime. I don't grow the green when ripes, but I do have both Kellogg's Breakfast and Aunt Gertie's Gold, that are in my opinion both "Gold." It may not be too much of a help, but will provide somewhat of a yardstick.

Happy to check the epi, when I have ripe fruit. And if someone sends me "Tom's Yellow Wonder" seed or some such - I'll be happy to check the epi on that as well next winter when I have ripe fruit.

Oh, I also have Beauty King doing well this season. Should I get a ripe fruit, that should be an interesting skin color to check.

[Wi-sunflower]

OK, I've seen this epidermis color mentioned several times here at TV. I don't want to seem dumb, but how do you check / see that.

I know the word epidermis has to do with the skin, but what do I do ??

Is it as simple as peeling and looking at it from the inside out ??

Thanks

[Raymondo]

Peel off a piece of skin. Scrape gently to remove any vestiges of flesh. You need just the skin and absolutely nothing else. Hold it up to the light. Clear is just that, clear and yellow is, well, yellow. I've done it a number of times to check. The most difficult part, for me who lacks a delicate touch, is scraping off the flesh without tearing the skin to shreds!

[Wi-sunflower]

I think what I've seen on the old dead fields also shows the "epidermis". After the fruit dries up (desicates) a "red" will have yellow mumies laying all around. I had thought that was just from the sun fading the color, but now I think it may be just that because the flesh is gone all that is left is the epidermis.

I know some of the mumies have been "white" rather than yellow. I'll have to see if I can connect the white to pink varieties. I'll try to see what some of the others are if I can find them before spring. Right now we have about 1/2 foot of snow over everything.

I do have about 20 buckets of stuff in the barn for seed processing that I can check out tho. I know at least some of them have mumies in the buckets. Will get back to you when I get out there.

[Tormato]

Originally Posted by tomatoaddict

I know that Red tomatoes have a yellow skin and that Pink ones have a clear skin. Now I am wondering about the others. Could someone please help on this?

Black/Purple=??? epidermis
Yellow=???
Gold=??
White=???
Green=???
Stiped varieties+???

Stiped varieties?

Terry,
I didn't know Michael (REM) was into tomatoes.

From what I've seen, yellows, golds, and oranges can have either skin color.

Gary