Tomatoville® Gardening Forums


Notices

New to growing your own tomatoes? This is the forum to learn the successful techniques used by seasoned tomato growers. Questions are welcome, too.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old December 11, 2008   #1
troad
Tomatovillian™
 
troad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Des Moines, WA.
Posts: 358
Default Mylar Outside?

Nice pictures by dcarch in post "fluorescent grow lights" found in the "Starting from Seed" forum.
Makes me wonder if anyone has used Mylar outside during the growing season?
Obviously our Texas and Florida growers get all the sunshine they need and then some but the Pacific Northwest and Alaska growers could use more solar help. Especially this past summer. Would it work?
I'm buying a 25 foot roll to use around a 2ft by 4 ft table so I'll have enough to experiment with but don't want to waste my time or the extra Mylar. Suggestions?

Len
__________________
There's a fine line between gardening and madness.
troad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 11, 2008   #2
dcarch
Tomatovillian™
 
dcarch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: NY
Posts: 2,618
Default

I use mirror fabric streched to reflect more sun to the plants. Makes a big difference.

dcarch
__________________
tomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomato matomato
tomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomato matomato
tomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomato matomato
dcarch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 11, 2008   #3
earthbox13
Tomatovillian™
 
earthbox13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Colorado
Posts: 37
Default

Research from the University of New Hampshire:

http://fishrs.unh.edu/news/news_rele...2tomatoes.html

Scott
earthbox13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 11, 2008   #4
dice
Tomatovillian™
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: PNW
Posts: 4,743
Default

One issue is getting the soil to warm up, also a problem in
spring in the Pacific Northwest and similar climates. A reflective
mulch will delay that. One solution might be to cultivate
something soft and green that decays quickly (like grass
clippings) into the top 6 inches of soil a couple of weeks
before transplant and then mulch over top of it. The decaying
organic matter will provide some heat to the top of the soil
from within. Otherwise, I would wait until after we have had
a couple of weeks of sunny weather with nights well above
freezing before putting down a reflective mulch between them.
__________________
--
alias
dice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 13, 2008   #5
troad
Tomatovillian™
 
troad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Des Moines, WA.
Posts: 358
Default

dcarch
do you happen to have a picture of how you set up your mirror fabric? Your indoor set-up looks like it is very efficient.
Scott,
thanks for the link. It confirms what I was thinking. Will have to google polyethylene mulch.
Dice,
As usual you hit the mark dead center for us in the PNW. I was thinking of a reflector behind a single row rather than a mulch since our ground takes a while to warm up.
Len
__________________
There's a fine line between gardening and madness.
troad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 13, 2008   #6
dcarch
Tomatovillian™
 
dcarch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: NY
Posts: 2,618
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by troad View Post
dcarch
do you happen to have a picture of how you set up your mirror fabric? Your indoor set-up looks like it is very efficient.
-----------Len
There are two parts to my reflector system.
I have already taken down the mirror fabric for the winter. It is just a big long piece of mirror fabric strech hung by bugee cords (24' x 4')

Here is the other part of my reflector system:
http://tomatoville.com/showthread.ph...ight=reflector
this system addresses dice's concern about keeping the soil warm in the winter, and cool in the summer.

Hope this helps.

dcarch
__________________
tomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomato matomato
tomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomato matomato
tomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomato matomato

Last edited by dcarch; December 13, 2008 at 04:22 PM.
dcarch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 13, 2008   #7
brog
Tomatovillian™
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Lilburn GA
Posts: 278
Default

I hope this thread continues, it could help us old southern boys with our early crops. Please more feed back. Thanks
__________________
Bill
brog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 13, 2008   #8
dice
Tomatovillian™
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: PNW
Posts: 4,743
Default

PS: I got the "put some heat in the top of the soil with green
stuff shortly before transplant" idea from Gimme3. He actually
said "top 2-4 inches" (rather than top 6 inches), and he uses
mowed crimson clover, but anything that tends to heat up fast
in a compost pile should work:

http://www.tomatoville.com/showthrea...reen#post74960

I had one plant in kind of a dim spot for the bottom couple feet
of it that was struggling after transplant this summer. I sliced
into a pie plate, cut a hole in the middle for the stem, and
slipped it around the bottom, held off of the soil by a few small
rocks under it. That seemed to help. (I bent the inside edges
of the hole to keep them from slicing into the stem.)
__________________
--
alias
dice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 13, 2008   #9
dcarch
Tomatovillian™
 
dcarch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: NY
Posts: 2,618
Default

One more thing I have found very useful with the alum/plywood reflector panels;

I bury about two to three gallons of kitchen scraps every week or so under the panels, so far I have not had problems from animals digging the scraps up.

dcarch
__________________
tomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomato matomato
tomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomato matomato
tomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomatomato matomato
dcarch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 14, 2008   #10
TZ-OH6
Tomatovillian™
 
TZ-OH6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Mid-Ohio
Posts: 848
Default

Another option is to use grow room reflective black-white "panda" poly. It is heavy duty plastic and could be flipped from black to warm the soil to white [90% reflective] later on.
TZ-OH6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 17, 2008   #11
troad
Tomatovillian™
 
troad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Des Moines, WA.
Posts: 358
Default

TZ,
Excellent idea. Will see if I can incorporate the plastic mulch with Dice's idea of a green manure to heat the ground up first then try a reflective screen. Thanks for everyones input.
Len
__________________
There's a fine line between gardening and madness.
troad is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:27 AM.


★ Tomatoville® is a registered trademark of Commerce Holdings, LLC ★ All Content ©2022 Commerce Holdings, LLC ★